432 hz

dg425g · 08-23-2009, 09:19 AM

Search on Google "back to 432 hz" and click the first link (i can't post links)

How can i determine the pitch frequency of a song on my computer?

Freebase Dali · 08-23-2009, 01:09 PM

It's probably 440, since that's the standard.
I don't know why you're interested in this... tuning your A to 432hz is essentially just tuning it down, and you'd naturally tune down the rest of the notes based off the adjustment.

I hope you're not buying into that mystic nature vibration crap.
Every kid with a flat A would be communing with the gods on his shitty Telecaster if that were the case, when in reality they're just scaring off the neighborhood cats.

ausforest · 08-23-2009, 10:39 PM

The vast majority of songs on your computer (assuming you listen to contemporary music) would be tuned to A440, it's been the standard for a very long time (officially in 1955 according to the website you suggested).

I wouldn't read too much into the whole 432Hz thing though, I don't know a great deal about it so I can't comment on the whole "keynote of the universe" claim but I can tell you that although it may sound a bit nicer (Subjectively), you still can't listen to it at excessively high volumes and not expect hearing damage as they say you can so you've kinda got to question the authenticity of the whole thing.

Don't some classical musicians tune their instruments to A442Hz not 440?? Don't mean to steal your thread but can anybody tell me why?

GuitarBizarre · 08-24-2009, 05:44 AM

as has been said, don't bother with that 432hz thing. Its a load of total crap.

Guybrush · 08-24-2009, 05:46 AM

Okay, now I'm curious .. what is the 432hz thing? :p

ausforest · 08-24-2009, 06:59 AM

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Originally Posted by toretorden

Okay, now I'm curious .. what is the 432hz thing? :p

Google my friend, it's a wonderful thing!

Put simply, it's when you tune an instrument's A above middle C at 432Hz instead of the 'standard' 440Hz. Some people believe 432Hz is the resonant frequency of the universe and all sorts of cosmic stuff like that, it's pretty interesting if you ask me.

If nothing else it just makes music sound a bit different, I quite like a lot of it. If you youtube 432Hz there's a fair bit of music based around it.

Guybrush · 08-24-2009, 08:08 AM

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Originally Posted by ausforest

Google my friend, it's a wonderful thing!

Put simply, it's when you tune an instrument's A above middle C at 432Hz instead of the 'standard' 440Hz. Some people believe 432Hz is the resonant frequency of the universe and all sorts of cosmic stuff like that, it's pretty interesting if you ask me.

If nothing else it just makes music sound a bit different, I quite like a lot of it. If you youtube 432Hz there's a fair bit of music based around it.

Well, I could've googled it, but this thread will be rather poor if everyone who don't know this have to go and search in google just to find out what the thread is actually about. It can't hurt if someone posts an explanation of what is actually being discussed here.

Anyways, from what you posted, it sounds pretty dumb actually!

ausforest · 08-24-2009, 08:34 AM

Yeah, it's not really worth it if you don't believe in it i suppose. I'm not really sure if I believe it. I'm leaning more towards not believing it though, although I do have to admit, based on the music i've heard that uses the 432Hz principle, it can sound really amazing.

Guybrush · 08-24-2009, 08:55 AM

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Originally Posted by ausforest

Yeah, it's not really worth it if you don't believe in it i suppose. I'm not really sure if I believe it. I'm leaning more towards not believing it though, although I do have to admit, based on the music i've heard that uses the 432Hz principle, it can sound really amazing.

That doesn't make any sense .. You're suggesting that if you take any song, for example Yes' Roundabout, and tune down everything ever so slightly so that an A is now 7 hz lower, the song will sound better ..

What is it then that makes it better? Are there any comparatives that can be done to check this out?

Freebase Dali · 08-25-2009, 12:10 AM

Tore... the reason people think it "feels/sounds" better is a placebo effect as a result of their misguided mystic fantasies, and nothing more.
It's not relational to, say, using a capo transposing a half-step up on an acoustic guitar simply for the change in action, resonance, and tone.
Theirs' is a mental thing.
The only reason for transposition of a tuning to any different frequency would be simply for audio acoustic advantages only... For instance, if you notice that in a particular environment, (a) certain note(s) would always resonate louder than others due to its relationship to the acoustic environment and standing waves, you may consider transposing some cents worth of degree. But eventually you just get the same problem in different notes. Generally people just treat rooms to diffuse, deflect, or absorb excessive waves.

That said, there really isn't a valid reason for transposing to 432hz unless you just happen to like the way you think it sounds, which is not much different, given the small difference from 440hz.

I dunno... People will be people. You can't be surprised that someone comes out with stuff like this 432hz crap and it spreads. If history is a lesson, then you should have your Doctorate in spotting these jokers.

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Freebase Dali Partying on the inside Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 5,584	It's probably 440, since that's the standard. I don't know why you're interested in this... tuning your A to 432hz is essentially just tuning it down, and you'd naturally tune down the rest of the notes based off the adjustment. I hope you're not buying into that mystic nature vibration crap. Every kid with a flat A would be communing with the gods on his shitty Telecaster if that were the case, when in reality they're just scaring off the neighborhood cats. __________________

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08-25-2009, 12:10 AM	#10 (permalink)
Freebase Dali Partying on the inside Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 5,584	Tore... the reason people think it "feels/sounds" better is a placebo effect as a result of their misguided mystic fantasies, and nothing more. It's not relational to, say, using a capo transposing a half-step up on an acoustic guitar simply for the change in action, resonance, and tone. Theirs' is a mental thing. The only reason for transposition of a tuning to any different frequency would be simply for audio acoustic advantages only... For instance, if you notice that in a particular environment, (a) certain note(s) would always resonate louder than others due to its relationship to the acoustic environment and standing waves, you may consider transposing some cents worth of degree. But eventually you just get the same problem in different notes. Generally people just treat rooms to diffuse, deflect, or absorb excessive waves. That said, there really isn't a valid reason for transposing to 432hz unless you just happen to like the way you think it sounds, which is not much different, given the small difference from 440hz. I dunno... People will be people. You can't be surprised that someone comes out with stuff like this 432hz crap and it spreads. If history is a lesson, then you should have your Doctorate in spotting these jokers. __________________

08-23-2009, 10:39 PM	#3 (permalink)
ausforest Groupie Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 17	The vast majority of songs on your computer (assuming you listen to contemporary music) would be tuned to A440, it's been the standard for a very long time (officially in 1955 according to the website you suggested). I wouldn't read too much into the whole 432Hz thing though, I don't know a great deal about it so I can't comment on the whole "keynote of the universe" claim but I can tell you that although it may sound a bit nicer (Subjectively), you still can't listen to it at excessively high volumes and not expect hearing damage as they say you can so you've kinda got to question the authenticity of the whole thing. Don't some classical musicians tune their instruments to A442Hz not 440?? Don't mean to steal your thread but can anybody tell me why?

08-24-2009, 08:34 AM	#8 (permalink)
ausforest Groupie Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 17	Yeah, it's not really worth it if you don't believe in it i suppose. I'm not really sure if I believe it. I'm leaning more towards not believing it though, although I do have to admit, based on the music i've heard that uses the 432Hz principle, it can sound really amazing.