What type of musician is the best? (quote, talented)

Necromancer · 11-01-2007, 06:43 AM

Thats your opinion and I can respect that. But funk is just not limited to R&B/Soul artist only. It is a feel that one may have, more so, than a word that describes any certain style. The question asked in this thread is, what is most important. Hard work, talent, or both? Hard work means nothing without a natural talent. Example: If someone wants to be a drummer, but just isnt able to keep a beat, are you saying with alot of hard work, he will become the next 'Bonham', 'Peart', 'Tommy Lee', etc.? Ive seen this often before. I would never tell someone they just dont have what it takes, I simply wouldnt hire them. Even still, I think everyone should enjoy playing music, in what ever form they choose. Regardless of talent. And I would be willing to always help them in any way that I could. So....If you believe hard work has more to do with it, that is your right of opinion. But I can not subscribe to that theory....Peace.

Exodizer · 11-01-2007, 03:12 PM

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Originally Posted by VocalsBass

Thats your opinion and I can respect that. But funk is just not limited to R&B/Soul artist only. It is a feel that one may have, more so, than a word that describes any certain style. The question asked in this thread is, what is most important. Hard work, talent, or both? Hard work means nothing without a natural talent. Example: If someone wants to be a drummer, but just isnt able to keep a beat, are you saying with alot of hard work, he will become the next 'Bonham', 'Peart', 'Tommy Lee', etc.? Ive seen this often before. I would never tell someone they just dont have what it takes, I simply wouldnt hire them. Even still, I think everyone should enjoy playing music, in what ever form they choose. Regardless of talent. And I would be willing to always help them in any way that I could. So....If you believe hard work has more to do with it, that is your right of opinion. But I can not subscribe to that theory....Peace.

Yeah I get the Funk is not R&B/Soul and is more of a feel, but That's why I said Eddie Hazel, because that's what he seems like. The natural funk rhythm and loud guitar. Yes if your tone deaf or can not keep a beat you are not going to be a great musician (generally speaking). If you can keep a beat that's not talent, because that's average. You can even be below average as a musician and still keep a beat. Regardless of talent (except if you can not keep a beat or are tone deaf) if you practice your ass off at your instrument your going to be great at it. That's why I say it has more to do with hard work.

Necromancer · 11-01-2007, 04:59 PM

Fair enough Brother, 'FOR THE AVERAGE TALENTED (Garage/Bedroom) MUSICIAN'. Its been great to debate on this thread with you. Hope to talk to ya later. Peace, & have a great weekend Bub. Sincerely, VB.

anticipation · 11-03-2007, 03:07 PM

the ones that are in screamo bands.

Anna Molly · 01-18-2008, 04:41 PM

Theres no such thing as a musical "gift." Some people are better at music then others, because they started younger or have practiced more, or have had the right influences ect. However, no one is born musically gifted. Singing is a different story, unfortunately for me :P

Therefore, neither hard work or talent is important. A love of music, and a desire to get better is all you need.

jackhammer · 01-19-2008, 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Anna Molly

Theres no such thing as a musical "gift." Some people are better at music then others, because they started younger or have practiced more, or have had the right influences ect. However, no one is born musically gifted. Singing is a different story, unfortunately for me :P

Therefore, neither hard work or talent is important. A love of music, and a desire to get better is all you need.

You are not born with a gift in the true sense of the word, however some people can naturally sing without any training or influences. The hard work will then improve this.

Lizzie · 01-18-2008, 04:51 PM

Talent...it doesn't matter how hard working you are, if you dont have the talent, you'll never be as good

~~under~~ · 01-18-2008, 11:27 PM

hard working takes the win for me. if you work hard you achieve greatness.

right-track · 01-19-2008, 08:08 AM

The best musicians are the ones that can stream their heart and soul through their instrument and lay it bare for all to hear.
I think that'll come under talent.

~~under~~ · 01-19-2008, 03:01 PM

Im able to sing and i havent really had any teachings. I mean i've listened to a few bands like P.Wolf and Bright Eyes and i got my influence from that. Its more skill than a gift. BUt you can be born with a naturally amazing voice. i've seen it. i've heard it. its pretty interesting.

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11-01-2007, 04:59 PM	#3 (permalink)
Necromancer Divination Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 2,655	Fair enough Brother, 'FOR THE AVERAGE TALENTED (Garage/Bedroom) MUSICIAN'. Its been great to debate on this thread with you. Hope to talk to ya later. Peace, & have a great weekend Bub. Sincerely, VB. Last edited by Necromancer; 11-04-2007 at 09:12 AM. Reason: Hard Work/Average Talent?

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11-01-2007, 06:43 AM	#1 (permalink)
Necromancer Divination Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 2,655	Thats your opinion and I can respect that. But funk is just not limited to R&B/Soul artist only. It is a feel that one may have, more so, than a word that describes any certain style. The question asked in this thread is, what is most important. Hard work, talent, or both? Hard work means nothing without a natural talent. Example: If someone wants to be a drummer, but just isnt able to keep a beat, are you saying with alot of hard work, he will become the next 'Bonham', 'Peart', 'Tommy Lee', etc.? Ive seen this often before. I would never tell someone they just dont have what it takes, I simply wouldnt hire them. Even still, I think everyone should enjoy playing music, in what ever form they choose. Regardless of talent. And I would be willing to always help them in any way that I could. So....If you believe hard work has more to do with it, that is your right of opinion. But I can not subscribe to that theory....Peace.

11-03-2007, 03:07 PM	#4 (permalink)
anticipation Music Addict Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 3,561	the ones that are in screamo bands.

01-18-2008, 04:41 PM	#5 (permalink)
Anna Molly Groupie Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 3	Theres no such thing as a musical "gift." Some people are better at music then others, because they started younger or have practiced more, or have had the right influences ect. However, no one is born musically gifted. Singing is a different story, unfortunately for me :P Therefore, neither hard work or talent is important. A love of music, and a desire to get better is all you need.

01-18-2008, 11:27 PM	#8 (permalink)
~~under~~ Account Disabled Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 1,051	hard working takes the win for me. if you work hard you achieve greatness.

01-19-2008, 08:08 AM	#9 (permalink)
right-track Atchin' Akai Join Date: May 2005 Location: Unamerica Posts: 8,769	The best musicians are the ones that can stream their heart and soul through their instrument and lay it bare for all to hear. I think that'll come under talent.

01-19-2008, 03:01 PM	#10 (permalink)
~~under~~ Account Disabled Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 1,051	Im able to sing and i havent really had any teachings. I mean i've listened to a few bands like P.Wolf and Bright Eyes and i got my influence from that. Its more skill than a gift. BUt you can be born with a naturally amazing voice. i've seen it. i've heard it. its pretty interesting.