Bridge intonation (tune, cover, quote, guitar, Hang)

TheCaster · 09-13-2008, 01:44 PM

yeah so i realized my high e was insanely off on higher fret positions
so i toned the rest of my strings and got them perfect for the most part, but when i got to my high e it was so flat on the 12th fret it registered on my tuner as a d# so i lowered the saddle to the end of the screw as far as i could get it towards the neck and it barely budged on my tuner. I have a mexican strat so idk if that helps all that much. any diagnosis, oh great guitar doctors?

GuitarBizarre · 09-13-2008, 01:46 PM

Use a new, stretched string. I had a guitar that did this all the time and I could never get it sorted until one day I tried to intonate it just after I changed the strings.

If that doesnt work, try using a thicker high E and intonate it that way.

mr dave · 09-13-2008, 01:50 PM

i've never done this myself so this is entirely speculation, but i'd think you would want to move the saddle closer to the bridge so that the tension is increased.

GuitarBizarre · 09-13-2008, 01:55 PM

Nope. the tension would be the same when the string is in tune. His problem is that the length of the string is under the right tension, but the note is only right when open. The length of vibrating string when fretted is actually slightly too long, causing it to go flat. The further up the neck, the more out of tune it becomes.

Shorten the length of vibrating string, and not only will his open string needto be under less tension to be in tune, but all the tuning issues will be gone

mr dave · 09-13-2008, 02:04 PM

in that case where he didn't notice a change after moving the saddle wouldn't it be possible that the saddle is just too low to do anything besides keep the string straight? might need to be raised ever so slightly to just create a stronger point of contact.

TheCaster · 09-13-2008, 02:07 PM

i have had these strings for about a year, and god knows how long they were on it in the store... that probably is the problem

thanks alot guys,

mr dave · 09-13-2008, 02:08 PM

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Originally Posted by TheCaster

i have had these strings for about a year, and god knows how long they were on it in the store... that probably is the problem

eeeewwwwwwwwwww..........

it's one thing to have really old strings. it's another thing to have really old strings lots of people have played (and sweated) on.

GuitarBizarre · 09-13-2008, 03:02 PM

I change my strings at least once a month...you people who keep strings on forever are ****ing INSANE.

TheCaster · 09-13-2008, 07:01 PM

well nothing is was ever wrong with them before now... :'(

GuitarBizarre · 09-13-2008, 07:10 PM

You'd be surprised man...I change the strings to keep them feeling fresh and easy to play. Old strings accumulate dirt and corrosion and as they stretch out over time they lose their elasticity.

The end result is you get a darker more muddy tone from them, it becomes harder to bend notes, and most importantly it just feels more difficult to play overall. Not to mention the fretboard ends up covered in dirt and sweat from the old strings....

Read this and you'll start to find out how important guitar and string changes and general maintenence is.

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09-13-2008, 01:44 PM	#1 (permalink)
TheCaster Music Rapist Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Somewhere in the U.S Posts: 400	Bridge intonation yeah so i realized my high e was insanely off on higher fret positions so i toned the rest of my strings and got them perfect for the most part, but when i got to my high e it was so flat on the 12th fret it registered on my tuner as a d# so i lowered the saddle to the end of the screw as far as i could get it towards the neck and it barely budged on my tuner. I have a mexican strat so idk if that helps all that much. any diagnosis, oh great guitar doctors? __________________ A soul in tension thats learning to fly Condition grounded but determined to try Cant keep my eyes from the circling skies Tongue-tied and twisted just an earth-bound misfit

09-13-2008, 02:07 PM	#6 (permalink)
TheCaster Music Rapist Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Somewhere in the U.S Posts: 400	i have had these strings for about a year, and god knows how long they were on it in the store... that probably is the problem thanks alot guys, __________________ A soul in tension thats learning to fly Condition grounded but determined to try Cant keep my eyes from the circling skies Tongue-tied and twisted just an earth-bound misfit

09-13-2008, 07:01 PM	#9 (permalink)
TheCaster Music Rapist Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Somewhere in the U.S Posts: 400	well nothing is was ever wrong with them before now... :'( __________________ A soul in tension thats learning to fly Condition grounded but determined to try Cant keep my eyes from the circling skies Tongue-tied and twisted just an earth-bound misfit