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Old 12-11-2008, 04:13 PM   #11 (permalink)
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They don't handle downtuning well and even in standard they can feel 'flappy' to some people who prefer a guitar that has more tension and thus note definition.
they sell larger gauge strings for a reason though. people who complain about it being 'flappy' are probably still using .9s and expecting it to feel like a 25.5" scale instead of using .10s and getting a similar feel.
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Old 12-12-2008, 08:42 AM   #12 (permalink)
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Old 12-13-2008, 02:51 PM   #13 (permalink)
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they sell larger gauge strings for a reason though. people who complain about it being 'flappy' are probably still using .9s and expecting it to feel like a 25.5" scale instead of using .10s and getting a similar feel.
I actually own both and have had guages ranging from .09 to .11 on my short scale viper.

The viper has always felt floppy to me regardless of string guage. Also, the heavier the string guage, the more mud in the tone. short scale + thick strings = mud city. Great for TEH BROOTALZ but horribly awful for anything where you really want single note definition in a fast riff or chord.

In comparison, my 25.5 scale guitars feel perfect with either guage string on them. The 10's feel chunky enough to give good tone, but the higher tension keeps them from mudding up too much. The 9's have a slightly thinner tone with excellent playability and the but through quite nicely, whereas on a short scale they just felt like elastic bands.
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Old 12-13-2008, 04:25 PM   #14 (permalink)
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I actually own both and have had guages ranging from .09 to .11 on my short scale viper.

The viper has always felt floppy to me regardless of string guage. Also, the heavier the string guage, the more mud in the tone. short scale + thick strings = mud city. Great for TEH BROOTALZ but horribly awful for anything where you really want single note definition in a fast riff or chord.

In comparison, my 25.5 scale guitars feel perfect with either guage string on them. The 10's feel chunky enough to give good tone, but the higher tension keeps them from mudding up too much. The 9's have a slightly thinner tone with excellent playability and the but through quite nicely, whereas on a short scale they just felt like elastic bands.
i still think it's a matter of preference and probably a matter of which one you started with (for the average guitarist)

i'll admit that the strings on my shorter scale guitar feel looser but it becomes a matter of preference. then again they're also .13s dropped to C... yet i don't play TEH MET-UHL!!! even back in the day when i used .10s tuned to standard the difference between those and the .09s on my strat wasn't really that noticeable to me. i can certainly see why people could have a preference though.

i also think it's pretty cool that we seem to have polar opposite approaches to style and technique yet never bump heads in the bad way
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i still think it's a matter of preference and probably a matter of which one you started with (for the average guitarist)

i'll admit that the strings on my shorter scale guitar feel looser but it becomes a matter of preference. then again they're also .13s dropped to C... yet i don't play TEH MET-UHL!!! even back in the day when i used .10s tuned to standard the difference between those and the .09s on my strat wasn't really that noticeable to me. i can certainly see why people could have a preference though.

i also think it's pretty cool that we seem to have polar opposite approaches to style and technique yet never bump heads in the bad way
Yeah man, its ****in' surreal that we are so incredibly opposite.
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i've never heard of a tele having a tremolo bridge but it shouldn't be that hard to have humbuckers installed in any tele. it'll likely cost a bit more though since whoever does it will need to rout the body a bit in order to make them fit but there's no reason it can't be done.
The model he is talking about already has the humbuckers, I assume this is the one you are talking about?

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You can add a Bigsby tremolo to it, but to add a tremolo that is similar to say a Strat or something you would have to swap out pretty much all its insides - which is not very worth it from what I hear.
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might want to note the original post looking for something OTHER than a '72 deluxe.
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haha yeh and i kinda changing the specs i want just a normal tele pickup at the bottom and humbucker at the neck
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haha yeh and i kinda changing the specs i want just a normal tele pickup at the bottom and humbucker at the neck
That sir, is a Telecaster Custom.


I love the neck on my tele custom, it's one of the best mexican teles you can get.
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