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Old 12-13-2010, 06:14 PM   #11 (permalink)
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You might also want to read Satchmo's post as he's completely right, except probably for the 80's/90's part. Bose made some nead amplifiers in the 70's.
They also had the 901 speakers which were rubbish, but came with an external amplifier that made them sound acceptable (still a lot of money for 'reasonable' sound quality).
In the 80's they already went all acoustimass on us.
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I thought about it and you're completely right; The 601's came out in the 70's.



By the end of the 80's, Bose was all about their Acoustimass system which was total crap, but sold like nobody's business.
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Old 12-13-2010, 06:17 PM   #12 (permalink)
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The 601's in my opinion weren't all that brilliant either. They're mainly sandwitched 301's.
They're pretty laid back to listen to, but they lack every bit of depth and detail.
601's are about 100-150 dollars here. AR4's are about 30-40 dollars.
AR3's are about 100-150 dollars, too. No brainer.
I prefer the AR2ax by the way. Three way speaker. They sound pretty transparent for old american speakers .

Eitherway, we're off now.
The only bose I don't think is awful is actuall the old 901 and the 802, which is a PA speaker. But you pay hundreds of dollars for old 901's and they still aren't better than an AR4. AR4's are value for money .

Eh... still off.
Headphones.
Well, obviously no bose for me. I'm a pretty big Beyerdynamic fan myself, but then you are talking about $150 and more. I'm not sure how easy Philips is found where you come from, but I think they have some pretty brilliant headphones for 40 to 50 dollars.
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Old 12-13-2010, 07:44 PM   #13 (permalink)
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Damn you guys know your stuff! I was wondering though the headphone jack on my amp is 1/4 inch. I have a converter will it affect sound quality much if I use that and a 1/8inch headphones? Also if I was going Philips what would be a good idea for around 50 dollars.
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Old 12-13-2010, 07:55 PM   #14 (permalink)
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Damn you guys know your stuff! I was wondering though the headphone jack on my amp is 1/4 inch. I have a converter will it affect sound quality much if I use that and a 1/8inch headphones? Also if I was going Philips what would be a good idea for around 50 dollars.
If you're not looking to completely isolate the sound of your guitar from anyone else, (eg. someone sleeping or studying in the same room), I strongly recommend a pair of open air headphones. The trade off will be there will be some sound leakage from your headphones, in other words people in your immediate vicinity will be able to hear what you're playing, but the spacial dynamics of your guitar tone will be more accurate to the actual room acoustics that you would experience with a conventional amplification scenario w/o headphones, not to mention, your listening fatigue will be greatly reduced. I would do a search on Amazon for Phillips open air headphones.
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Old 12-13-2010, 08:41 PM   #15 (permalink)
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Hmm I will definitely have to get some open air headphones than. Thanks
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Old 12-14-2010, 12:49 AM   #16 (permalink)
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Hmm I will definitely have to get some open air headphones than. Thanks
i highly recommend the Sennheiser HD 515s. they actually come with a 1/4" jack on the cord, open eared, and just shy of being audiophile gear but not nearly as pricey.
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Old 12-15-2010, 05:54 AM   #17 (permalink)
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The 515s are, especially compared with other sennheisers, pretty good value for money.
You still have to like the pushy, bassy sound sennheisers produce.
I think most sennheisers are very tiring to listen to.
The only one I've liked so far was the cheap ass Manhattan. That's actually pretty good .

Using an adapter should mean a decrease in sound quality, but I can't say I really hear it. I wouldn't be too bothered about that. I must say though that most more expensive headphones already have an 1/4" plug. There's also adapters that go from 1/4 to 1/8"
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xEMGx won't concede defeat on this s_k as he has invested 300 quid in a pair of headphones, which you are telling him suck!
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Old 12-16-2010, 02:35 PM   #19 (permalink)
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The 515s are, especially compared with other sennheisers, pretty good value for money.
You still have to like the pushy, bassy sound sennheisers produce.
I think most sennheisers are very tiring to listen to.
The only one I've liked so far was the cheap ass Manhattan. That's actually pretty good .

Using an adapter should mean a decrease in sound quality, but I can't say I really hear it. I wouldn't be too bothered about that. I must say though that most more expensive headphones already have an 1/4" plug. There's also adapters that go from 1/4 to 1/8"
This. I highly recommend Grado headphones over anything sennheiser. the SR60i headphones in particular are about the best value for money headphones on earth. Open air type headphones, very neutral, balanced sound quality. Perhaps a little dip in the midrange compared to the best of the best, and the SR80's have bigger bass, but for the price they absolutely cannot be beaten.

Also, RE: Bose - I work for a UK Hi-fi company, and I will weigh in on the side that says Bose gear sells on the name alone. They are great at marketing, but I've seen and heard a lot of their equipment and headphones and haven't been impressed at any point, particularly not with acoustimass or their much vaunted clock radios, which sound terrible!
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Old 12-21-2010, 06:19 PM   #20 (permalink)
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xEMGx won't concede defeat on this s_k as he has invested 300 quid in a pair of headphones, which you are telling him suck!
I made the same mistake with a $900 Vincent preamp/poweramp combination.
And I'm happy to admit that it was utter crap and I lost $400 selling it .
Glad I got rid of it. Crap got kicked out of it by my 2x15 watt Tube amp .
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