Music Banter

Music Banter (https://www.musicbanter.com/)
-   Talk Instruments (https://www.musicbanter.com/talk-instruments/)
-   -   best/favorite guitars (https://www.musicbanter.com/talk-instruments/55224-best-favorite-guitars.html)

musiclistsareus 03-24-2011 04:56 PM

best/favorite guitars
 
I know Strats and Les Pauls are among the most popular with SGs, Telecasters, Rickenbachers and Gretsches (among others) having their own followers. Brian May's Red Special is one that I have always admired-though I'm not aware of other artists using it (they are available). So which are your favorites and why? and what artists use which guitars more than others. I think guitarists opinions would be most appreciated, but other artists and even listeners/fans might have their preferences as well.

ThePhanastasio 03-24-2011 05:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by musiclistsareus (Post 1024091)
I know Strats and Les Pauls are among the most popular with SGs, Telecasters, Rickenbachers and Gretsches (among others) having their own followers. Brian May's Red Special is one that I have always admired-though I'm not aware of other artists using it (they are available). So which are your favorites and why? and what artists use which guitars more than others. I think guitarists opinions would be most appreciated, but other artists and even listeners/fans might have their preferences as well.

The Red Special is actually a one-of-a-kind guitar made by Brian and his dad; the Burns Red Special and the other brands of Red Special models are just imitations of May and his dad's original design.

As far as my favorite guitars...well, I'll have to go with Languedoc first of all. Each guitar is built custom by Paul Languedoc, and they're gorgeous instruments. He's the man who's made all of Trey Anastasio's guitars. There are really nice touches to each instrument, you can pick the wood you want for him to use, the finish, etc.

He won't do custom inlay work, so he can keep the price fixed, and he won't build anyone but Trey guitars with koa - but I've actually seen someone else with a Languedoc, and it's a beautiful, beautiful guitar, albeit horribly expensive.

They look like this for the $10,000 model:
http://languedocguitars.com/gallery/gallery2/6.jpg

And this is the $7500 model:
http://languedocguitars.com/gallery/gallery2/10.jpg

I would love one of them. Thinline hollowbody guitars that sound great and look beautiful...*swoons*

Also, I wouldn't mind having one of these, a Gibson CS-356 Koa:
http://www.destroyallguitars.com/images/CS-356-1.jpg

musiclistsareus 03-26-2011 12:11 AM

Aren't all "non-custom" guitars copies of an original? Those pictured guitars are beauties-are you aware of other artists who use it (besides Trey)?

[Royal Tenenbaum] 03-26-2011 04:47 PM

One of my favorite guitars is the Gibson Chet Atkins Tennessean, specifically the one Xan from Cake uses:

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2664/...8d878426_b.jpg

Neapolitan 03-26-2011 10:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by musiclistsareus (Post 1024091)
I know Strats and Les Pauls are among the most popular with SGs, Telecasters, Rickenbachers and Gretsches (among others) having their own followers. Brian May's Red Special is one that I have always admired-though I'm not aware of other artists using it (they are available). So which are your favorites and why? and what artists use which guitars more than others. I think guitarists opinions would be most appreciated, but other artists and even listeners/fans might have their preferences as well.

I pretty much agree with all you mentioned. I never met a guitar I didn't like. I think no guitar is 100% soundwise if you are looking for to sound like another artist, if they play a Strat but one has a LP then it's hard to achieve the sound one wants. Someone told me they prefer the Stratocaster over the Les Paul because they can make his Strat sound like a LP but he can't make his LP sound like a Strat. I know some of my friends who are guitar players who feel the need to buy the same gear as their favorite artist. Although I think it a little be easier if you want your own sound to find one you can be happy with close to 100% satisfaction. I don't know that is how I look at it.

Each might be perfect in its own right, but comparing them to another guitar one can see they have their limits. The Telecaster is a slab of wood, and doesn't have the contour body of a Stratocaster, so after playing a Strat a Telecaster seem uncomfortable and you can't get the 2/4 position like on a Strat. I don't like the Nashiville Telecaster with three p-ups if I wanted a guitar with three p-ups I would play a Strat :/ The most comfortable Fender model is the Jazzmaster, way more comfortable then a Strat, but that doesn't has the Fender American Standard Strat Tremolo System. The Jazzmaster Tremelo system at the time was supposed to be an improvement over the Strat's Standard Trem system but in retrospect it wasn't, it has a bridge that is movable and rattles apart and a single spring system, which isn't adjustable like the Strat's. I haven't played a Fender Strat with a two point Tremolo so I can't really comment, but I think the 6-point vintage style tremolo with a bigger block is better, and more nostalgic if you are concern with the fine details of a guitar. The Stratocaster is limited with the sound possibilities though with only a 5 way switch, compared to the Brian May's Red Special which has 26 possibilities though some sounds repeated so it's like 16 different tones. The Gretsch are expensive for what they are, can't dive-bomb on them, but I really prefer the Bisgby Vibrato to other types. Fender released 2K DeArmond p-ups and have them on some guitars some line are discontinued but they are dullsville compare to real vintage DeArmond p-ups. My dream guitar would be a Jazzmaster with the full 25.5" scale length neck, soap-bar p-ups and with a Six point Standard Tremolo System. Rosewood vs Maple neck I prefer the feel of a rosewood neck. Where Fender give different p-up options that are noticeable, a Jazzmaster Jaguar Telecaster and Stratocaster pick ups look noticeable different from looking at them Gibson generally uses the humbucker on most of their guitar models, but the difference for them are the windings that effect output. Where Fender guitars have a similar look, the Gibson's models are much more varied compared to each other, such as Les Paul, Flying V, the Explorer, Thunderbird and ES-335 and Super 400 CES etc.

Quote:

Originally Posted by musiclistsareus (Post 1024091)
So which are your favorites and why? and what artists use which guitars more than others. I think guitarists opinions would be most appreciated,

I think the Les Paul and the 60's Strat w/ Rosewood fretboard are the more popular models among pro-artist, imo. I don't think I could list favourite guitars, if I was force to choose one favourite among all of them, it would be a 50's style Stratocaster with a Maple neck - everyone from Buddy Holly to Hank Marvin to Jimi Hendrix to Eric Johnson played one. And for basses it's easy - the Musicmaster Bass.

ThePhanastasio 03-26-2011 10:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by musiclistsareus (Post 1024913)
Aren't all "non-custom" guitars copies of an original? Those pictured guitars are beauties-are you aware of other artists who use it (besides Trey)?

I know independent / local artists who play Languedocs, but no one besides Trey of any renown who plays them.

Paul Languedoc was an apprentice guitar maker who caught the attention of Trey before Phish was famous, and made Trey his guitar(s).

Only recently did Paul start allowing himself to make guitars for the public. With the tone available from these babies, I'd imagine it's only a matter of time before they become more popular with other guitarists.

My friend Sam has a legitimate Languedoc, and the sound from this guitar is better than anything I've heard from 99.9% of hollow body guitars - the only thing that came close was a couple of Gibson customs. But the thinline nature of these guitars + the tone is not really accessible unless you get a Languedoc.

Plus - note that the headstock is made to be the state of Vermont. Pretty nifty and unique touch!

Neapolitan 03-27-2011 08:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by [Royal Tenenbaum] (Post 1025226)
One of my favorite guitars is the Gibson Chet Atkins Tennessean, specifically the one Xan from Cake uses:

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2457/...d11ae4d3_o.jpg

Royal Tenenbaum,

I don't know if you've noticed but Xan did a few mods with his Chet Atkins Tennessean guitar, it's mod with Radio Shack-type vol/tone knobs replacing the stock Gibson speed knobs and a B7 Bigsby Vibrato replacing a stop-tailpiece. What I thought interesting that Gibson do was not only taking the Gretsch model's name "Tennessean" but also have the fret inlays close to the edge like the half-moon inlays that Gretsch used on the Gretsch 6119 Tennessean. Chet Atkins (the person, not the guitar) complained that Gretsch (the people at the company) would ask for his input and he suggest that the block should run the length of the guitar from the neck joint to the end of the guitar, but they never complied with him. Finally with Gibson Chet got what he wanted. Gibson equipped the Tennessean with a 490T and 492R humbuckers specially made. Originally the Gretsch 6119 Tennessean had HiLo 'Trons for pick-ups, they were basically single coil p-ups I think Chet preferred them to the DeArmonds p-ups, he often complain the magnet pull DA pups was too strong on the strings and that would kill sustain, to fix that problem he had to halve the magnets in half, I don't know if he used a saw them in half or a hammer whack them in half.

I can't recall too many pictures with Chet Atkins (the person) holding a Gretsch 6119 Tennessean. I think George Harrison is more recognizable for playing the Gretsch 6119 Tennessean. He used it in "Help!" and brought it out again when he recording Sargent Pepper's Lonely Hearts Clubs Band album.

http://img694.imageshack.us/img694/5...orbis53085.jpg
George Harrison pictured with his Gretsch 6119 Tennessean.

music0_uno1 03-29-2011 02:48 AM

My favourites for acoustic would have to be the martin's. High quality construction and material. Beautiful to play.

Key 03-29-2011 03:40 PM

I love Gibson SG:

http://media.wths.net/zaban/roer/images/GIBSON%20SG.jpg

Played it with a marshall amp once like a year ago, and I liked the sound and feel of it.

[Royal Tenenbaum] 03-29-2011 09:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Neapolitan (Post 1025861)
Royal Tenenbaum,

I don't know if you've noticed but Xan did a few mods with his Chet Atkins Tennessean guitar, it's mod with Radio Shack-type vol/tone knobs replacing the stock Gibson speed knobs and a B7 Bigsby Vibrato replacing a stop-tailpiece. What I thought interesting that Gibson do was not only taking the Gretsch model's name "Tennessean" but also have the fret inlays close to the edge like the half-moon inlays that Gretsch used on the Gretsch 6119 Tennessean. Chet Atkins (the person, not the guitar) complained that Gretsch (the people at the company) would ask for his input and he suggest that the block should run the length of the guitar from the neck joint to the end of the guitar, but they never complied with him. Finally with Gibson Chet got what he wanted. Gibson equipped the Tennessean with a 490T and 492R humbuckers specially made. Originally the Gretsch 6119 Tennessean had HiLo 'Trons for pick-ups, they were basically single coil p-ups I think Chet preferred them to the DeArmonds p-ups, he often complain the magnet pull DA pups was too strong on the strings and that would kill sustain, to fix that problem he had to halve the magnets in half, I don't know if he used a saw them in half or a hammer whack them in half.

I can't recall too many pictures with Chet Atkins (the person) holding a Gretsch 6119 Tennessean. I think George Harrison is more recognizable for playing the Gretsch 6119 Tennessean. He used it in "Help!" and brought it out again when he recording Sargent Pepper's Lonely Hearts Clubs Band album.

http://img694.imageshack.us/img694/5...orbis53085.jpg
George Harrison pictured with his Gretsch 6119 Tennessean.

Yes, I know, dude :D Xan is more or less the main reason I picked up guitar. I've researched almost everything I can about Xan, his gear, and the entire band for that matter :D They're my main inspiration for getting into music. Also, the center block of the Gibson is actually Balsa wood :D

musiclistsareus 04-01-2011 01:15 AM

Willie Nelson loves his Martin acoustic (he named it Trigger), he has worn a hole in the face. Are there any other really good acoustics?

Dr_Rez 04-03-2011 12:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Neapolitan (Post 1025376)
I pretty much agree with all you mentioned. I never met a guitar I didn't like. I think no guitar is 100% soundwise if you are looking for to sound like another artist, if they play a Strat but one has a LP then it's hard to achieve the sound one wants. Someone told me they prefer the Stratocaster over the Les Paul because they can make his Strat sound like a LP but he can't make his LP sound like a Strat. I know some of my friends who are guitar players who feel the need to buy the same gear as their favorite artist. Although I think it a little be easier if you want your own sound to find one you can be happy with close to 100% satisfaction. I don't know that is how I look at it.

Each might be perfect in its own right, but comparing them to another guitar one can see they have their limits. The Telecaster is a slab of wood, and doesn't have the contour body of a Stratocaster, so after playing a Strat a Telecaster seem uncomfortable and you can't get the 2/4 position like on a Strat. I don't like the Nashiville Telecaster with three p-ups if I wanted a guitar with three p-ups I would play a Strat :/ The most comfortable Fender model is the Jazzmaster, way more comfortable then a Strat, but that doesn't has the Fender American Standard Strat Tremolo System.

1. Even the most talented person could MAYBE get a similar les Paul sound out of a strat, but ill bet you that strat isnt a bone stock one. Theres a reason people get both guitars, because they simply sound totally different.

2. While you my not like the Nashville tele for being a strat copy, it really is its own thing. What other guitars gives you positions 2/4 and the tele bridge? Thats correct, none. For those of us who dont want a trem why have a strat hardtail when a tele bridge is far more useful.

ciprian24 04-06-2011 08:55 AM

gf

Dr_Rez 04-06-2011 10:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ciprian24 (Post 1031938)
gf

wtf is that post. I hate everything about you

GuitarBizarre 04-06-2011 12:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RezZ (Post 1029822)
For those of us who dont want a trem.

You mean those people exist? What kind of crazy ****ers are they?

ThePhanastasio 04-06-2011 01:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GuitarBizarre (Post 1031996)
You mean those people exist? What kind of crazy ****ers are they?

I'd rather not have a trem bridge, honestly. Every time I've used a guitar with tremolo, it seems like the damn thing goes out of tune within a few hours. Even decent guitars like the Gretsch Electromatic Hollowbody with the Bigsby tailpiece had that issue.

Plus, it's not really an important part of how I play.

[Royal Tenenbaum] 04-06-2011 05:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ThePhanastasio (Post 1032010)
I'd rather not have a trem bridge, honestly. Every time I've used a guitar with tremolo, it seems like the damn thing goes out of tune within a few hours. Even decent guitars like the Gretsch Electromatic Hollowbody with the Bigsby tailpiece had that issue.

Plus, it's not really an important part of how I play.

Even if you don't think you'd ever use it, you'd be surprised how much a little vibrato here and there with a Bigsby can help and widen your playing. It just adds that little bit of umph to your playing. I love the Bigsby on my Gretsch, and I only need to tune it up when I pick it up the first time each day.

Dr_Rez 04-06-2011 09:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GuitarBizarre (Post 1031996)
You mean those people exist? What kind of crazy ****ers are they?

Haha yea its pretty out there. I guess I actually deep down do want a trem. Im sure you hate them but I have been DYING to throw a bigsby on my thinline tele for ages. Im just to cheap to buy a real B5.

You are a vintage hater :) Personally my feeling on the matter is Leo got it right the first time (well maybe not the uncompensated saddles) and there little advancement in the building of guitars that I need. No while this rings true for you, I dont shred and divebomb EVH style so I dont need a Floyd Rose with locking tuners and a 15" board to fly on. In my honest opinion I think a player that sounds good on an RG for instance will sound just as good and have no problems playing on a fender neck, and with a little elbow grease using a strat trem.

GuitarBizarre 04-07-2011 03:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RezZ (Post 1032338)
Haha yea its pretty out there. I guess I actually deep down do want a trem. Im sure you hate them but I have been DYING to throw a bigsby on my thinline tele for ages. Im just to cheap to buy a real B5.

You are a vintage hater :) Personally my feeling on the matter is Leo got it right the first time (well maybe not the uncompensated saddles) and there little advancement in the building of guitars that I need. No while this rings true for you, I dont shred and divebomb EVH style so I dont need a Floyd Rose with locking tuners and a 15" board to fly on. In my honest opinion I think a player that sounds good on an RG for instance will sound just as good and have no problems playing on a fender neck, and with a little elbow grease using a strat trem.

Are you kidding?
http://img641.imageshack.us/img641/4...5452896.th.jpg
Uploaded with ImageShack.us
http://img42.imageshack.us/img42/765...5452896.th.jpg
Uploaded with ImageShack.us
http://img84.imageshack.us/img84/789...5452896.th.jpg
Uploaded with ImageShack.us

Also the guitar I play most is an HSS with 12" radius, semi-thick neck, and a wilkinson trem. Strung with 11's.

I'm not exactly bound to the shred :P

Dr_Rez 04-07-2011 01:28 PM

Well you certainly proved me wrong. From your reaction to triple tele saddles I assumed you would HATE the instability of a Bigsby.

Is that a Sheraton 1/2? And where did you find that cool trem arm for it!

GuitarBizarre 04-07-2011 02:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RezZ (Post 1032754)
Well you certainly proved me wrong. From your reaction to triple tele saddles I assumed you would HATE the instability of a Bigsby.

Is that a Sheraton 1/2? And where did you find that cool trem arm for it!

Its an epiphone Emperor Swingster. Totally stock. As for the instability...eh, I don't use the trem much on this guitar.

The wilky on my stratalike, however, I use a boatload. Holds tune pretty well for a modern vintage design!

Dr_Rez 04-07-2011 04:45 PM

I would chop off my arms and legs for an old pre Gibson epi Swing or Sheraton.

theairwasthick 04-12-2011 04:23 PM

I'm a big fan of offset Fenders, Jaguars, Jazzmasters and the like.

Most people really hate the bridge and the tremelo but I really dig it, but then again I'm a big fat shoegazer geek so i'm bound to...

E.Vil 05-28-2011 12:06 PM

I love my Ibanez EDR 470EX. Had some problems with it to begin with but I love it now, Although I have customized it abit :p . I really like Jackson guitars too. But my dream guitar is a White Falcon Gretsch

CephalopodsAndTheirAllies 05-28-2011 04:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by theairwasthick (Post 1035730)
I'm a big fan of offset Fenders, Jaguars, Jazzmasters and the like.

Most people really hate the bridge and the tremelo but I really dig it, but then again I'm a big fat shoegazer geek so i'm bound to...

I have a really hard time getting a good sound with the Jaguar and Jazzmaster tremolos for some reason! I guess I'm more of a Floyd trem guy. I do love Fenders though. Right now I'm playing a Telecaster Custom HH and I've never loved a guitar more. I'm paying off an American Standard Strat right now though, with a tremolo. My tele doesn't have one and I desperately need it. I'm a shoegazer too, haha.

Necromancer 05-29-2011 09:18 PM

Let your style of music be your guide, and pick your guitar based on that musical choice. Explore the benefits and drawbacks of each individual guitar. As you can see, it's an individual choice that you need to make, based on what kind of music you intend to play. Also, one might consider owning more than one guitar, in order to play whatever your choice of different musical style's may be.

Dr_Rez 05-29-2011 09:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by VocalsBass (Post 1061667)
Let your style of music be your guide, and pick your guitar based on that musical choice..

On the other hand dont let the expected style of a guitar limit its possibilities. Dont not get a tele because you think its only great for country.

Necromancer 05-29-2011 10:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RezZ (Post 1061673)
On the other hand dont let the expected style of a guitar limit its possibilities. Dont not get a tele because you think its only great for country.

Quote:

Originally Posted by VocalsBass (Post 1061667)
Let your style of music be your guide, and pick your guitar based on that musical choice. Explore the benefits and drawbacks of each individual guitar. As you can see, it's an individual choice that you need to make, based on what kind of music you intend to play. Also, one might consider owning more than one guitar, in order to play whatever your choice of different musical style's may be.

The quest for the ultimate tone is a constant struggle for guitarists. I've yet to meet a guitarist who is wholly satisfied with every aspect of their sound.

daisymayhem 05-29-2011 10:22 PM

favorite
 
my favorite guitar was the first one I ever bought.. straight out of a local music paw shop. Used acoustic Fender :)

Bloozcrooz 06-02-2011 08:07 AM

This isnt so much to do with a specific guitar as it is a specific technique for playing guitar. Im interested in bettering myself in the tremolo style of playing. I hear Srv use it from time to time and utilizes the sound to make for a great change of pace. Instead of just the expected shredding of scales and riffs hammer ons etc, etc. Its rather tricky to use this method of picking accuratley enough to control the timing of it. Just wondering if anyone else has mastered this style of play and may know any helpful tricks. Id like to be able to incorporate it into some of my material when im playing and change up the monotony of my solos. Heres an example of what im talkin about....notice how easily he seems to be able to strum at that super fast rate of speed. im not talking about the picking..just the struming.


Mykonos 06-02-2011 09:45 AM

The Gibson Firebird's been that guitar I really want for a while. I just love the less-extreme Explorer look of it, and PJ Harvey excellently demonstrated the unique sound of those mini-humbuckers in a Youtube video that I sadly can't seem to find now.

Farfisa 06-02-2011 12:20 PM

http://www.pmblues.com/images/fender.corn.ww.1.jpg

I've been looking at Fender Coronados lately. They're really not used by too many people as they were commercial failures and a lot of people expected hollowbodies to sound like a 335 or something stupid like that. The pickups on these things were actually engineered by the same person who designed the pickups on rickenbacker guitars. Another thing I like about these guitars is that super long tremolo for shoegazy goodness.


http://www.vintage-guitars.se/1966_F...uar_191251.jpg
I've also been looking at Fender Jaguars too, but no explanation is needed as to why I would want one.

Mykonos 06-02-2011 02:18 PM

They're the group that Wildwoods came from, aren't they? There's some crazy wood colours going on in those guitars. But if it's shoegazy, it's obviously going to be good.

Dr_Rez 06-04-2011 11:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by loose_lips_sink_ships (Post 1063787)

I've been looking at Fender Coronados lately. They're really not used by too many people as they were commercial failures and a lot of people expected hollowbodies to sound like a 335 or something stupid like that. The pickups on these things were actually engineered by the same person who designed the pickups on rickenbacker guitars. Another thing I like about these guitars is that super long tremolo for shoegazy goodness.



I've also been looking at Fender Jaguars too, but no explanation is needed as to why I would want one.

This Coro's look real cool but definitely seem a little hard to find.

And thats a magnificent jag. Id do some bad things to own that guitar.

I would go for a 52 RI Tele. First electric solidbody and it was done right.

http://www.richci.com/images/tele1.jpg

Farfisa 06-05-2011 12:59 AM

I love teles to death, but if I were to get another 3 saddle tele then I'd go for the compensated brass saddles and replace the stock ones.

tehpathogen 07-11-2011 02:32 PM

I would have to say that my favorite acoustic guitar is my '61 Gibson Humingbird that was passed down to me from my father. the sustain is incredible.

Mykonos 07-11-2011 04:05 PM

Not really a guitar, but:

http://www.thewuffler.f9.co.uk/jazzmaster.jpg

An Almuse Jazzmaster Mandolin. I think the promise of being able to sound like a cross between Warren Ellis and Kevin Shields is luring me in to something I really don't need, and I'm ignoring the facts that I don't know how to play the Mandolin, don't have any kind of amplification for it, can't play left-handed even though I am a lefty, and couldn't hope to get my paws on enough money to get one. But still, that is a thing of beauty right there.

Necromancer 07-11-2011 05:38 PM

I played a 5-string Shector bass a couple of weeks ago for around $800 bucks, that I must have!

[MERIT] 07-11-2011 05:47 PM

Not top of the line or high end by any means, but I like my Yamaha Pacifica.

http://www.dv247.com/assets/products/41667_l.jpg

LinusZsvenning 07-14-2011 01:04 PM

Yo!

Playing on a morgan acoustic atm, and i have never been so pleased with a guitar! The sound is so awesome with the right strings!

And my fav electric guitar are and has always been my Ibanex RG-320! :)

Peace.. .


All times are GMT -6. The time now is 01:21 AM.


© 2003-2024 Advameg, Inc.