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Dr_Rez 04-20-2012 06:39 PM

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Originally Posted by GuitarBizarre (Post 1180489)
I've had plenty of trouble tuning wise, sadly. The only 3x3 headstocked guitar I've ever played where the tuning was rock solid, was my breedlove.

Sadly, Gibsons and the like have real problems with tuning. Its partially down to the fact their headstock angle is 17 degrees instead of 13/14 which is basically everyone elses standard.

Surprisingly my best tuning is with vintage 2 point trems. I never use them free floating as imo thats meant for floyds. Use 4 springs in back and make sure to wrap string at least 4 times around tuning peg. I can abuse the **** out of it and stay in tune.

It stays in tune better though than most gibson style guitars that dont even have a tremelo.

GOD BLESS LEO FENDER

GuitarBizarre 04-20-2012 06:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Dr. Rez (Post 1180565)
Surprisingly my best tuning is with vintage 2 point trems. I never use them free floating as imo thats meant for floyds. Use 4 springs in back and make sure to wrap string at least 4 times around tuning peg. I can abuse the **** out of it and stay in tune.

It stays in tune better though than most gibson style guitars that dont even have a tremelo.

GOD BLESS LEO FENDER

That really, really shouldn't work. Especially with that many wraps around the post. The reason locking tuners exist is to reduce the number of wraps. The rationale is less wraps = less string stretching, deforming, and getting caught on itself.

The rest makes sense though, and iirc its exactly what Stevie Ray Vaughan used to do.

Dr_Rez 04-20-2012 06:57 PM

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Originally Posted by GuitarBizarre (Post 1180570)
That really, really shouldn't work. Especially with that many wraps around the post. The reason locking tuners exist is to reduce the number of wraps. The rationale is less wraps = less string stretching, deforming, and getting caught on itself.

The rest makes sense though, and iirc its exactly what Stevie Ray Vaughan used to do.

Well im putting it through the peg THEN wrapping it 4 times. Perhaps youre thinking wrapping then through? When I did it the other way I had mad tuning problems.

GuitarBizarre 04-20-2012 07:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Dr. Rez (Post 1180572)
Well im putting it through the peg THEN wrapping it 4 times. Perhaps youre thinking wrapping then through? When I did it the other way I had mad tuning problems.

...the best way I can think of to describe this is this.

Consider that in the tuning peg, before you even make a wind, there is a "nut" side to the hole, and a "loose" side to the hole.

If, after you wrap the string, your 4 wraps are on the "nut" side of the hole, then thats ****ing crazy.

If you mean something else, you're still crazy because I have no idea how you're even keeping your strings on the guitar.

Dr_Rez 04-20-2012 07:04 PM

I dont know how to explain it I guess. Whatever I do works so god damned well and ill never do it differently. Perhaps I am defying physics or just an idiot. All I know is every time since I started stringing fender guitars like that my tuning worries even with a plastic piece of **** nut have gone away.

GuitarBizarre 04-20-2012 07:40 PM

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Originally Posted by dr. Rez (Post 1180575)
i dont know how to explain it i guess. Whatever i do works so god damned well and ill never do it differently. Perhaps i am defying physics or just an idiot. All i know is every time since i started stringing fender guitars like that my tuning worries even with a plastic piece of **** nut have gone away.

hmmmmmmmmmmmm

mr dave 04-21-2012 08:02 AM

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Originally Posted by blastingas10 (Post 1180420)
Thanks for addressing my comment with such detail. I curretly have a solid body laguna, which Is one reason im startin to lean towards the hollow body. I want something different. I have a friend who has a epiphone dot, he runs it through a Marshall that has two 10 or 12 inch speakers in it. He plays some heavy stuff. I've never heard any feedback issues when he was playing, and my amp isn't even as loud as his so I'm not really worried about feedback issues, i think it'll be fine.

Another thing to consider is that my girlfriend is wanting to buy it for me for me birthday and the strat is a little more expensive, so I almost don't even have a choice.

Here's yet another angle to consider. They've been making and selling Strats for well over 50 years now. They're not going to stop. Hollow-bodies have been around forever too, but there aren't many specific models that have stuck around that long, and those that have are NOT cheap. If there's a particular modern hollow-body that's caught your fancy, I'd say now is the time to get it.

Also, the issue with the feedback is when you -stop- playing. Like when you're just holding that last chord and letting it ring out, sometimes having that tear up into a swell of feedback is a great cap to a tune, sometimes it destroys the delicate balance of the intricate love song you just performed. The hollow-body simply has more space to allow for the sound waves to resonate and create a feedback loop. It was a major complaint from the guys in Oasis back in the day.

@WWWP - Good luck with the rental. Keep us posted on the new guitar when you finalize your decision. :thumb:

Guitar Sniper dot com 04-22-2012 09:35 AM

Dean MLX?
 
I want to win the guitar on the GuitarSniper web site.

It's a Dean. But this one looks pretty nice.

Dr_Rez 04-22-2012 09:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Guitar Sniper dot com (Post 1181186)
I want to win the guitar on the GuitarSniper web site.

It's a Dean. But this one looks pretty nice.

haha thats the shadiest looking site ever. If a site needs someone to spam it on message boards it has to suck.

Burning Down 04-25-2012 09:20 AM

Okay, I'll just use this thread. Anyone know if I can get a decent classical guitar for under $200? Willing to stretch my budget to $250, but that's it due to sales tax on top of it. I'm taking a summer class at school called "Introduction to Classical Guitar Technique" that starts in July, and I need a nylon string classical guitar for the course. I have 7 other guitars at my house but they are all steel string (and 5 are electric).

So yeah, I just need something basic. Nylon string classical guitar, good quality, preferably under $200. I've looked on the Internet and in stores, but all the guitars that are in my price range are the kid size ones (like 1/2 or 3/4 size), and I need a full size guitar.

Thanks.

Edit: I'm also okay with ordering from the US as long as it comes within my budget.


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