Bass Guitarist

Plankton · 05-10-2012, 11:10 AM

Yeah, my apologies. I does suck. Back to the drawing board for me. It's a shame I don't have someone like you to do all the sound engineering when inspiration strikes, and I'm being serious.

Plankton · 05-10-2012, 11:13 AM

Just for clarity. I offered the tune in question up for some other guitarists to hear and here's a couple responses:

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Nice stuff here Plankton loved the extra thick layers of guitars nowt like a wall of sound. It has bags of energy and an all round good time vibe. Killer leads to buddy some celtic influence creeping thru on some of em. The chromatic climb around the 2.37 mark was stunning. Great stuff here man

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Very cool... you really take the listener on a trip! You have super control... smokin!

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Some wild stuff going on there Plank, lovin' it! Got some "Edge" feel going on there, nice twists throughout.

But the "Guitar as Bass" wasn't in question, so... I really don't know what that hell I'm trying to say. I'll just stop now before I dig myself any deeper.

GuitarBizarre · 05-10-2012, 12:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Plankton

Just for clarity. I offered the tune in question up for some other guitarists to hear and here's a couple responses:

But the "Guitar as Bass" wasn't in question, so... I really don't know what that hell I'm trying to say. I'll just stop now before I dig myself any deeper.

I got positive responses to a lot of stuff years ago I'd be ashamed to show people today. People tend to be nice for the sake of it. It takes someone informed to make a constructive criticism.

I'm not going to change my mind. I listened, I analysed, and I posted why I think that mix is bad, and I also posted a number of things you could do to fix it, first among which is to high pass the guitars and get a proper bass sound, just like the vast majority of rock production you will ever hear. They're not doing it because they can do without it, they're doing it because its better. A *lot* better.

Plankton · 05-10-2012, 12:35 PM

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Originally Posted by GuitarBizarre

I got positive responses to a lot of stuff years ago I'd be ashamed to show people today. People tend to be nice for the sake of it. It takes someone informed to make a constructive criticism.

I'm not going to change my mind. I listened, I analysed, and I posted why I think that mix is bad, and I also posted a number of things you could do to fix it, first among which is to high pass the guitars and get a proper bass sound, just like the vast majority of rock production you will ever hear. They're not doing it because they can do without it, they're doing it because its better.

I hear ya. I really do have a lot to learn when it comes to recording, and I appreciate the constructive insight. I'll take your suggestions, and see what I can do. I've been recording for years, but never really looked into proper ways to tweak db's and their usage, among other things. This could be a blessing for me. Much obliged.

Automatic Writing · 05-14-2012, 09:11 PM

Bass definitely thickens up the sound and fills out the sonic scape. I think there are genres in which the bass plays a minimal and arguably optional role, but I don't think I've heard a single song where bass wouldn't be a welcome addition.

Only song I can think of right now without bass: Sister Ray by The Velvet Underground. Also all or most of the Doors songs had the bass parts played on keyboard.

Big Ears · 05-15-2012, 01:54 AM

One of Tom Jones's recent albums has a track with his voice, electric guitar and some percussion. No bass guitar. I think it is John Lee Hooker's Burning Hell on Praise and Blame.

05-10-2012, 11:10 AM	#1 (permalink)
Plankton Just Keep Swimming... Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: See signature... Posts: 7,765	Yeah, my apologies. I does suck. Back to the drawing board for me. It's a shame I don't have someone like you to do all the sound engineering when inspiration strikes, and I'm being serious.

05-14-2012, 09:11 PM	#5 (permalink)
Automatic Writing Groupie Join Date: May 2012 Posts: 19	Bass definitely thickens up the sound and fills out the sonic scape. I think there are genres in which the bass plays a minimal and arguably optional role, but I don't think I've heard a single song where bass wouldn't be a welcome addition. Only song I can think of right now without bass: Sister Ray by The Velvet Underground. Also all or most of the Doors songs had the bass parts played on keyboard.

05-15-2012, 01:54 AM	#6 (permalink)
Big Ears Music Addict Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Hampshire, England Posts: 434	One of Tom Jones's recent albums has a track with his voice, electric guitar and some percussion. No bass guitar. I think it is John Lee Hooker's Burning Hell on Praise and Blame.