Most overrated bands ever?

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Originally Posted by Rainard Jalen

"most innovative band of the rock era" is the common one. Richie Unterberger makes the exact claim, so if somebody at his level does, many more casual fans do too.

They were the most innovative band of the rock era.

If they set trends it was only because they brought the ideas/sounds to a mainstream audience. That is the point: they are wrongly credited with inventing the sounds.

Now you see, its bullcrap like this that pisses me off, their sounds were not taken from anybody, they took ideas, whoopedy doo, you get ideas from other people, no band just pulls everything out of their own ass.

You tell me, how many other rock bands were doing songs like Tommorrow Never Knows or Love You To or Eleanor Rigby? Or songs with backwards guitar solos or 5 minute songs with all Raga instruments. Or songs like I Am The Walrus, Strawberry Fields or Day in the Life, these were not psychedelic rock songs, they took inspiration from the movement but they blended it with pop and made it into something comletely different. Thats what they did, they didn't imitate anybody, they took ideas and pushed them into new directions. Thats part of what being innovative is, its not just pulling something completely out of your ass with no source of inspiration whatsoever.

I can't believe how ridiculous you are being.

That they were influential by virtue of being able to access the biggest audience, however, is beyond doubt.

The point is that they emulated styles, they didn't create any. Yes, hybrids are new styles. The Beatles weren't responsible for creating them.

Wrong.

All of their later albums are hybrids of different styles, they are not direct imitations of anything.

Mixing styles is what everybody does. You can't completely make something without any kind of inspiration, and if you do, it will probably suck.

The main miracle of Sgt Pepper is a miracle in engineering.

And song structure.

Rumour has it that they had 700 hours of studio time in making that record. One can only BEGIN to dream of what other bands would have been capable of at the time if they were given 700 hours.

This is bullcrap. Now you're just playing the "well other bands could have done that" game.

They could of, but they didn't.

The seeds of prog were being sewn way earlier than Sgt Pepper etc. Check out Zappa, Freak Out!: 1966.

Freak Out dosen't deserve all the credit, its just the earliest example.

Pink Floyd, King Crimson, Yes and Genesis were all strongly influenced by The Beatles. Prog bands were more inspired by Freak Out than influenced.

That statement you made is the exact type of thing I'm referring to. Music more cutting edge than Sgt Pepper was being created in 66 and 67

Name them.

and people were self-producing and recording it with tiny or zero budgets. Prog was going to happen whatever else happened.

I don't believe that, even so it sure as hell wouldn't be the same.

You pretty much prove my point about them being overrated with that unbelievable suggestion.

You're the one thats being really outrageous right now. You're basically telling me they were not innovative because *gasp* THEY HAD INFLUENCES.