Most overrated bands ever?

[4ZZZ]

Most overrated thread ever.

Nearly 2,000 posts and nearly 90,000 views by people generally bitching about aesthetic values. Considering all the great threads around here that bring me, and I presume others, to artistes I know little about or have never heard of etc those figures amaze me considering that some of these great threads get hardly any traffic.

So in the end you would all rather fight a battle over what you prefer to what others prefer as if you were defending your footy team? Talk about cheap tribalism!

I just reckon I might be too old for this type of meaningless shYte.

[lucifer_sam]

Originally Posted by sleepy jack

Says the Jeff Buckley fan - someone who you consider "great" but only released one album before drowning himself to Led Zeppelin (I'd do the same if I was in his boots though.) Don't you think the irony is far too thick here? Dismissing Elliott Smith off as just another singer/songwriter is absurd when he's far more talented then basically every singer/songwriter your fan of (e.g. John Martyn, Bon Iver) is just retarded. At the end of his career he was producing his own albums, playing virtually all the instruments (occasionally he had a guest, like on Coast to Coast but he could play drums by himself if he had pleased) and crafting songs as intimate and real as air - your post is not only ignorant but just plain fucking stupid.

oh, Ethan, why? why now?

just when i thought you could express yourself intelligently, you have to resort to ad hominem arguments and intolerance. not everyone has the same musical taste as you, and because we don't doesn't give you permission to act the asshole. we're all people here.

take a chill pill dude.

[sleepy jack]

Maybe I'm getting tired of people ragging on Elliott Smith and then turning around giving fellatio to artists like Bon Iver who are nothing more than pitchfork flavors of the month.

[boo boo]

I'm not ragging on him.

[lucifer_sam]

Originally Posted by sleepy jack

Maybe I'm getting tired of people ragging on Elliott Smith and then turning around giving fellatio to artists like Bon Iver who are nothing more than pitchfork flavors of the month.

you really think that's what jackhammer or booboo was saying?

[sleepy jack]

I don't recall any sort of attack on boo boo - he's made comments about people like Nick Drake, Elliott Smith and so on being bad guitarists before and consider his music preferences I think the statement was fair. Reading his post I still don't think he understands gentler music that is more based on subtly then anything else - at least that's what I could derive from the bits that were actually relevant to Smith's particular aesthetic.

And yeah I do think that's what Jackhammer was doing. Seeing as he was one of the people running around and praising Bon Iver I find it hypocritical to come in here and dismiss Elliott Smith the way he did - especially considering the atmosphere and division that surrounds many of his albums and the fact he isn't even widely discussed anymore. He is far from the first artist that pops to mind when I hear the words "overrated."

[boo boo]

I never called Smith a bad guitarist. Drake? Yes.

All I said is that I don't really get much from Smith's playing that goes beyond the usual strummed open chords of other folk singers. He throws in a little more finger picking than most. But it's not like he's Chet Atkins or anything.

Angeles does have some nice finger picking though.

[sleepy jack]

Have you even listened to a Elliott Smith album? He does more than just strum and occasionally finger pick when it comes to the guitar - like seriously I don't understand how you can claim to have heard his music and say that. It's like listening to a Beatles album and saying they had some chords and occasionally did some studio tricks but they weren't Brian Wilson or anything.

[boo boo]

Now you're being incredibly defensive.

I'm not calling him a bad or mediocre guitarist, I've complimenting one of his songs, what more do you want?

But really, give me some examples of him doing something other than open chords and finger picking.

[Thrice]

Originally Posted by 4ZZZ

Most overrated thread ever.

Nearly 2,000 posts and nearly 90,000 views by people generally bitching about aesthetic values. Considering all the great threads around here that bring me, and I presume others, to artistes I know little about or have never heard of etc those figures amaze me considering that some of these great threads get hardly any traffic.

So in the end you would all rather fight a battle over what you prefer to what others prefer as if you were defending your footy team? Talk about cheap tribalism!

I just reckon I might be too old for this type of meaningless shYte.

Well this one of the first threads we had, so I dont see whats so surprising about the numbers, but thanks for posting here and becoming another number yourself! Youre helping out great! Most overrated use of font size ever.