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Old 12-20-2014, 12:34 PM   #251 (permalink)
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Saving Private Ryan took something as exciting as war and made it into a boring and pointless film.
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Old 12-20-2014, 01:19 PM   #252 (permalink)
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Old 12-20-2014, 02:20 PM   #253 (permalink)
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If you can get through the scene in the church, it's all good. That's the only part that ever felt like you had to "get through".
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Old 12-20-2014, 02:25 PM   #254 (permalink)
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Saving Private Ryan took something as exciting as war and made it into a boring and pointless film.
But then it also made it into an awesome TV series called Band Of Brothers.
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Old 12-22-2014, 01:19 PM   #255 (permalink)
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Saving Private Ryan took something as exciting as war and made it into a boring and pointless film.
Agree, I can name dozens of war movies that I liked better, but saving private ryan gets all the credit.
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Old 12-22-2014, 04:40 PM   #256 (permalink)
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I'm not sure I like the idea of framing war as 'exciting'. The best war films are the ones that display just how futile and cruel the whole concept is. As for Saving Private Ryan, it doesn't have much to say, but that opening scene is beautifully shot. One of Spielberg's nicest sequences in his whole filmography.
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Old 12-22-2014, 05:05 PM   #257 (permalink)
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I'm not sure I like the idea of framing war as 'exciting'. The best war films are the ones that display just how futile and cruel the whole concept is. As for Saving Private Ryan, it doesn't have much to say, but that opening scene is beautifully shot. One of Spielberg's nicest sequences in his whole filmography.
Agreed. As much as I like most of the rest of the movie, it's just not on the same level as the first ten minutes. And while it might be sketchy to find a war film "exciting", it's just human nature. We, or at least men, are hard-wired to want to be warriors, so whether people want to admit it or not, war movies are as much about vicarious glory-seeking as they are about making actual statements about war. I mean it's not really that universal an experience for most people these days, and yet war movies are still very popular. Just like Call of Duty is the biggest franchise in gaming right now.
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Are they that popular? How often do war movies get released? Other than the work of Kathryn Bigelow and that Fury film that just came out, I struggle to think of many recent war films.
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Are they that popular? How often do war movies get released? Other than the work of Kathryn Bigelow and that Fury film that just came out, I struggle to think of many recent war films.
Just looking at IMBD there were apparently a lot in 2013. How many of them were big name I don't know though.


IMDb: Most Popular War Feature Films Released In 2013
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Just looking at IMBD there were apparently a lot in 2013. How many of them were big name I don't know though.


IMDb: Most Popular War Feature Films Released In 2013
Other than the top one, Zero Dark Thirty, and some of the more obscure ones, hardly any of them are chest pounding action based accounts of war. The Book Thief and The Railway Man are slow and sad, The Wind Rises is Studio Ghibli. I just don't think there's much of a market for that type of film any more. Previous wars have ran dry and the ones we're involved in these days are too technology based to provide great story opportunities. How can you make a good film about drone strikes?
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