Clapton, Beck, Page vs Hendrix, Gibbons, Vaughn

Necromancer · 06-01-2011, 06:22 PM

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Originally Posted by BastardofYoung

way to pick 2 hendrix covers to sum of SRV, haha. His versions are all inferior to the originals, "Little Wing" is good though.

SRV is a fantastic guitar player, but his vocals leave little to be desired to me. His voice is very plain and blan. Which is why I love "Little Wing" it shows his guitar talent without the boring vocals..

I agree his vocals are nothing more than average, but I might suggest that Vaughn's vocals are a little better than Hendrix. I would give it to Vaughn as far as having the best vocals.

Bloozcrooz · 06-01-2011, 08:09 PM

As big of fan as I am of Srv I dont think I could place his vocals above Jimi. Of course Stevie knew his singing wasnt the greatest in the world, and has admitted he had to practice at it to just get to average.(even though I woudnt consider it just average) Which was part of the reason for tuning a 1/2 step down a lot if not all of the time. His voice does'nt appeal to everyone, but I enjoy it very much so myself. I guess it could be kind of an aquired taste for some, but it doesnt even strike me as awkward or blan when I listen to him. Equal to Jimi's vocals no..I dont think I would go that far. Jimi had good range that I dont think Srv was capable of matching. He also tuned down 1/2 a step in some of his stuff as well, but there are some pieces of music that only Jimi's vocals were capable of mastering imo. At the same time Jimi could add a soft melodic touch to some of his songs as well like in,"the wind cries mary" and "little wing". Just so versatile in so many different ways as a musician in many different aspects not just vocally. Both were great artists but the upper hand definatley goes to Jimi imo.

BastardofYoung · 06-01-2011, 08:41 PM

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Originally Posted by VocalsBass

I agree his vocals are nothing more than average, but I might suggest that Vaughn's vocals are a little better than Hendrix. I would give it to Vaughn as far as having the best vocals.

Hendrix to me had a more natural approach to vocals. His vocals matched his playing well. Everything about Hendrix to me seemed very natural, and sincere. I personally find his vocals to be atleast more exciting than SRV..

Necromancer · 06-01-2011, 09:53 PM

I just personally prefer Vaughans vocals over Hendrix, but that in return, no way means that I don't enjoy listening to Hendix's vocals also. I agree that Jimi could give a soft touch to songs like, "The Wind Cries Mary" and so on. But I have to disagree with the suggestion that Hendrix has more range (vocal wise) than Vaughan. Maybe its just me, but Vaughan seems to not only be a more powerful singer with more projection in his voice, but he also sounds like he can hit higher notes which gives Vaughan a higher range than Hendrix had. (I don't know, maybe there is something I'm missing here and my ears are deceiving me)? Stevie Ray Vaughan received a lot of criticism for sounding similar to Jimi Hendrix through the years, which in turn leads to an untold number of comparisons between the two. Both Jimi and Stevie played blues rock both used Fender Strats through Marshall amps. They had a similar guitar sound and obviously Stevie was heavily influenced by Jimi. They both wore flamboyant costumes. They both died at an early age. They were both addicts at one time or another during their short lives, with Stevie more prone to alcohol abuse. But that’s where the similarities end.
Stevie Ray Vaughan was technically masterful. He was hugely influential in restoring the popularity of blues rock in the late 70s and throughout the 80s when everyone was disco dancing to KC and the Sunshine band. Stevie played fast and clean. He would use heavy distortion and tremolo from time to time but his magic came from his fingers. When he covered “Little Wing”, he played with such precision, you can tell right away that it’s not Jimi Hendrix.
Hendrix on the other hand was an innovator. Technically speaking, he was rough and choppy but he more than made up for that with his stage presence and the incredible sounds he produced that most people have never heard of at the time. Jimi played from the gut, I mean he was all feel, nothing else. The fact that his songs have been covered by Stevie Ray Vaughan makes it easy to clearly hear the difference between the two guitarists.
There’s no doubt that Jimi Hendrix is one of the most influential guitarists of all time. He may not have been as technically good as Stevie was. And this comparison between Stevie Ray Vaughan and Jimi Hendrix may be subjective but we can all agree that Jimi is one of the most influential guitarists of all time and Stevie was technically the better player. However, without Jimi Hendrix there would be no Stevie Ray Vaughan.

Howard the Duck · 06-01-2011, 11:12 PM

this thread is not Jimi vs SRV, it's Clapton, Beck, Page vs Jimi, Srv and Gibbons

Bloozcrooz · 06-01-2011, 11:40 PM

thanks for the clarifacation Duce..none of us were aware of that

Dotoar · 06-02-2011, 03:36 PM

I guess we're mainly talking about their performing abilities respectively, but that's just one side of the coin and essentially I cannot really pick any of them if I was to be completely honest about it. See, great guitarists tend to be crappy songwriters and whatever these guys did in terms of great songs, they did within the context of a band. I, for one, don't really care for instrumentalists just being awesome at their game anymore. I mean, I can still gasp in awe at lightning-fast solos when executed in an innovative way, but I wouldn't really listen to it as a serious piece of music for its own sake. Without the songcraft (and I don't consider neither Hendrix, Clapton or Page being very good songwriters) I don't find the comparisation very adequate.

That said, I'd go with the brits (and replace them with Steve Howe, Andy Latimer and Steve Hackett), but if I was to pick one sole Guitar Player (yes, the capitals are intentional, with the above taken into account) it'd be Hendrix, if only because he was the first and foremost inventor of them all.

Bloozcrooz · 06-02-2011, 03:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Dotoar

I guess we're mainly talking about their performing abilities respectively, but that's just one side of the coin and essentially I cannot really pick any of them if I was to be completely honest about it. See, great guitarists tend to be crappy songwriters and whatever these guys did in terms of great songs, they did within the context of a band. I, for one, don't really care for instrumentalists just being awesome at their game anymore. I mean, I can still gasp in awe at lightning-fast solos when executed in an innovative way, but I wouldn't really listen to it as a serious piece of music for its own sake. Without the songcraft (and I don't consider neither Hendrix, Clapton or Page being very good songwriters) I don't find the comparisation very adequate.

That said, I'd go with the brits (and replace them with Steve Howe, Andy Latimer and Steve Hackett), but if I was to pick one sole Guitar Player (yes, the capitals are intentional, with the above taken into account) it'd be Hendrix, if only because he was the first and foremost inventor of them all.

If you enjoy speedy stratocaster guitar work with a Hendrix/Vaughan type style. Then give this guy a listen and tell me what you think. This is a cover of a KWS song, but really its just Little Wing reicarnated. At any rate I think this guy is fantastic with his strat ability, and i cant stop listening to him.

Dotoar · 06-02-2011, 04:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Boozinbloozin

If you enjoy speedy stratocaster guitar work with a Hendrix/Vaughan type style. Then give this guy a listen and tell me what you think. This is a cover of a KWS song, but really its just Little Wing reicarnated. At any rate I think this guy is fantastic with his strat ability, and i cant stop listening to him.

Well, he's good, I guess. I wouldn't really know, there are so many of 'em. The only guy who really makes a speed impression on me with a Strat is Ritchie Blackmore.

Dr_Rez · 06-02-2011, 10:05 PM

Id really say Beck could be stuck up there easily with Vaughn at #2.

He covers so many more styles than any of the artists here.

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Dotoar Supernatural anaesthetist Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Örebro, Sweden Posts: 436	I guess we're mainly talking about their performing abilities respectively, but that's just one side of the coin and essentially I cannot really pick any of them if I was to be completely honest about it. See, great guitarists tend to be crappy songwriters and whatever these guys did in terms of great songs, they did within the context of a band. I, for one, don't really care for instrumentalists just being awesome at their game anymore. I mean, I can still gasp in awe at lightning-fast solos when executed in an innovative way, but I wouldn't really listen to it as a serious piece of music for its own sake. Without the songcraft (and I don't consider neither Hendrix, Clapton or Page being very good songwriters) I don't find the comparisation very adequate. That said, I'd go with the brits (and replace them with Steve Howe, Andy Latimer and Steve Hackett), but if I was to pick one sole Guitar Player (yes, the capitals are intentional, with the above taken into account) it'd be Hendrix, if only because he was the first and foremost inventor of them all. __________________ - More is more -

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Necromancer Divination Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 2,655	I just personally prefer Vaughans vocals over Hendrix, but that in return, no way means that I don't enjoy listening to Hendix's vocals also. I agree that Jimi could give a soft touch to songs like, "The Wind Cries Mary" and so on. But I have to disagree with the suggestion that Hendrix has more range (vocal wise) than Vaughan. Maybe its just me, but Vaughan seems to not only be a more powerful singer with more projection in his voice, but he also sounds like he can hit higher notes which gives Vaughan a higher range than Hendrix had. (I don't know, maybe there is something I'm missing here and my ears are deceiving me)? Stevie Ray Vaughan received a lot of criticism for sounding similar to Jimi Hendrix through the years, which in turn leads to an untold number of comparisons between the two. Both Jimi and Stevie played blues rock both used Fender Strats through Marshall amps. They had a similar guitar sound and obviously Stevie was heavily influenced by Jimi. They both wore flamboyant costumes. They both died at an early age. They were both addicts at one time or another during their short lives, with Stevie more prone to alcohol abuse. But that’s where the similarities end. Stevie Ray Vaughan was technically masterful. He was hugely influential in restoring the popularity of blues rock in the late 70s and throughout the 80s when everyone was disco dancing to KC and the Sunshine band. Stevie played fast and clean. He would use heavy distortion and tremolo from time to time but his magic came from his fingers. When he covered “Little Wing”, he played with such precision, you can tell right away that it’s not Jimi Hendrix. Hendrix on the other hand was an innovator. Technically speaking, he was rough and choppy but he more than made up for that with his stage presence and the incredible sounds he produced that most people have never heard of at the time. Jimi played from the gut, I mean he was all feel, nothing else. The fact that his songs have been covered by Stevie Ray Vaughan makes it easy to clearly hear the difference between the two guitarists. There’s no doubt that Jimi Hendrix is one of the most influential guitarists of all time. He may not have been as technically good as Stevie was. And this comparison between Stevie Ray Vaughan and Jimi Hendrix may be subjective but we can all agree that Jimi is one of the most influential guitarists of all time and Stevie was technically the better player. However, without Jimi Hendrix there would be no Stevie Ray Vaughan.