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Old 07-30-2008, 12:36 PM   #171 (permalink)
lucifer_sam
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Originally Posted by whogivesaflux View Post
If that's the case you were REALLY off base via The Velvet Underground reference.
The Velvet Underground were one of the first to use music as an art form rather than a compositional arrangement. (Which is what Andy Warhol intended when he produced The Velvet Underground & Nico). If that doesn't qualify as art rock, "art pop," whatever, then you need to re-evaluate what you think it means.

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Friend, lets bring this full circle to a common ground of intelligent conversation. I took the time to defined clearly what I was referring to via the jargon I used. Maybe that's a misconception on my behalf. I will give you that much. But if all you can do as a music appreciator is be short, sarcastic and withdrawn, how could I possibly see the matter through your ears so to speak?
I'm being sarcastic and withdrawn because you're not making any collective sense.

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I have been searching and searching for an enthusiastic and INTELLIGENT music appreciation community. You wanna know what the two biggest draw backs that have hindered that process so far are? <whether you do or don't> Those two specific handicaps are comprised of age differences (most people under 18 live to insult themselves on message boards, not all though.) and cliques. Thankfully I haven't got a strong whiff of either here yet.
The people here on MusicBanter know what they're talking about. And they don't bullshit about it. Age-elitism isn't a great way to make friends, either. Although I'm only nineteen, Proggyman, one of the youngest members, is just as intelligent and cogent as most of the old farts here. I don't pretend to be the most musically knowledgable or intelligent, but I have enough sense to not make unwarranted and unsupported abjections.

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If you REALLY care about music AND communication, you'll avoid dismissive one sentence remarks that attempt to justify your brevity and take the time to honestly spell yourself out intelligently.
Okay, let me spell it out, then. In NO way is Radiohead "art pop." Their music expresses a great discord from traditional methods of songwriting, but the music is lyrically, compositionally, and musically structured, like everything else out there. Furthermore, Radiohead has come a looooong way and continue to reinvent themselves on every album. They were built upon an alternative rock single and elected to diversify and produce different music each time they went into the studio. They are overrated by some people, but they are in no way a poor band, bland, tedious, what-fucking-ever.

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What the hell else is personal passion/special interest based discussion for?
Exactly. So don't take offense when we call you out on bullshit.

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