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adidasss 01-25-2006 04:32 PM

wow
 
so perfection is now a mod?....so let me get this straight:
iamalejo
perfection
riseagainst
allnightdinah
fenixpunk
satchmo
thrice
aita

am i forgetting someone?

and let's see where they are from.....hmm.....7 US, 1 the rest of the world, not a very wise delegation if i may say so myself.....i'm betting AITA has a shitload of work to do while the americans are sleeping.......someone didn't take into consideration that this board operates 24 hours, not just when the americans are awake.....

i'm not happy with this decision, i have nothing against this boy, i was very happy with riseagaisnt and aita being made mods, allnightdinah i was not so happy because i barely knew that person frequented these forums, and now perfection? give me a break.....

i never thought i'd say this....but urban would have been a far better choice....or even stu.....

Barnard17 01-25-2006 04:37 PM

I have to agree with Adidasss on this one. Perfection, while no doubt a productive member, has not thus far struck me as the most level headed of people, which would not lend them to the duty of modship. I respect that you need to spread the work load but I'm not sure you've made the right choice here. And it's also a very good point that the spread of time zones is far from even, especially considering some of the comparitive numbers of members from Europe and the like you've got here.

mosesandtherubberducky 01-25-2006 04:40 PM

I'd have to agree with you on that one. Bungalow (you refer to him as my twin) suggested a while back that we have mods for different time zones or mods that can cover the hot hours and I don't see PTS as a good mod. Sorry dude but you do start quibbles a lot. I think there needs to be an Aussie or someone from eastern or near eastern Europe to mod. Not a west coast american.

Urban Hat€monger ? 01-25-2006 04:40 PM

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Originally Posted by adidasss

i never thought i'd say this....but urban would have been a far better choice....or even stu.....

Or Right-Track even

I don`t think i`ve seen anybody on this forum say a bad word against him

mosesandtherubberducky 01-25-2006 04:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Urban Hatemonger
Or Right-Track even

I don`t think i`ve seen anybody on this forum say a bad word against him



And he is very productive. Got me interested in some Northern Soul

adidasss 01-25-2006 04:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Urban Hatemonger
Or Right-Track even

I don`t think i`ve seen anybody on this forum say a bad word against him

right-track would be an exellent choice, but the man has a different approach to this forum and i'm not sure he would want the added responsability......besides, he's on only in the evening....we need someone who's on when it's morning or afternoon in europe, so either from australia/new zealand or from europe.....

ladyluckrules 01-25-2006 04:44 PM

I think the current mods should perhaps create a thread every time someone is considered for a mod, so that everyone can bring up problems they have. That way we could all be informed and if there is any large objection to the member it can be raised.

P.S Right-Track would be great actually.

adidasss 01-25-2006 04:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ladyluckrules
I think the current mods should perhaps create a thread every time someone is considered for a mod, so that everyone can bring up problems they have. That way we could all be informed and if there is any large objection to the member it can be raised.

P.S Right-Track would be great actually.

that's actually why i was so pissed about this decision, noone asked us, i'm sure gregb didn't just randomly pick him for a mod, they discussed it in the mod forum without even considering the members and their opinions.....

Merkaba 01-25-2006 04:49 PM

I agree. Seriously has Allnitedinah even left the punk forum? Ya never see him anywhere else. And I only know he's a he because Ethan mentioned it. Otherwise, I know nothing about this "moderator".

I want more AITA's :shycouch:

As in, european. As in, the rest of the world. As in, south of the equator perhaps.

mosesandtherubberducky 01-25-2006 04:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by adidasss
that's actually why i was so pissed about this decision, noone asked us, i'm sure gregb didn't just randomly pick him for a mod, they discussed it in the mod forum without even considering the members and their opinions.....

REVOLT


But yeah, I don't see why we have so many mods in the first place. Most of them aren't on later on in my night and all. Anyways, when was it decided that PTS was going to be a mod?

adidasss 01-25-2006 04:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mosesandtherubberducky
REVOLT


But yeah, I don't see why we have so many mods in the first place. Most of them aren't on later on in my night and all. Anyways, when was it decided that PTS was going to be a mod?

as far as numbers are concerned, i say the more the merrier, but perfection? bull.............shit........

ladyluckrules 01-25-2006 04:53 PM

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Originally Posted by adidasss
as far as numbers are concerned, i say the more the merrier, but perfection? bull.............shit........

We shouldn't start attacking him, he isn't a bad lad.
We just want to have some basic notification on this sort of thing.

Merkaba 01-25-2006 04:54 PM

The forum doesn't need 8 mods or whatever.

4 well situated mods would be more effective then the current 8 due to time zones.

Nothing against the current mods, just it'd be so much more effecient. Law of Diminishing Returns... for anyone who knows anything about economics

Urban Hat€monger ? 01-25-2006 04:57 PM

As long as they`re consistant & fair this place could have 20 mods for all I care.

Barnard17 01-25-2006 04:57 PM

Only thing is this isn't an economic issue. The mods are there because they're willing to do the job and for the most part have proven themselves capable (I say for the most part because I don't know everyone on the team). As long as we have some well situated ones, it doesn't matter if we have some floating about because it's not like there's a limited number of placements.

adidasss 01-25-2006 05:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ladyluckrules
We shouldn't start attacking him, he isn't a bad lad.
We just want to have some basic notification on this sort of thing.

well, i know he's going to be hurt by this, but at the moment i'm pissed off; i have no idea if he's a good or a bad lad, but that's EXACTLY the point, i have no idea who he is, after almost 9 months of being on this board i just recently discovered that he's actually a guy!! and i would preffer to know who the mods are and what makes them tick, what ever you may think, mods affect the way this site is run, it's a political decision, and i definetly wasn't expecting HIM to be made a mod, he has done nothing to deserve this, when someone is made a moderator it's also a way of showing respect and appreciation for who he/she is and has done for the boards, aswell as a recognition of their personalities and maturity....to me and many others, this guy has done nothing to deserve such a recognition.....

sorry for being an asshole, someone had to say it....i stayed quiet when allnightdinah was made a mod, but this was the straw that broke the cammel's back.....

gregb 01-25-2006 05:09 PM

If a mod isn't acting up to expectations please contact me, until then give them a chance.

Barnard17 01-25-2006 05:22 PM

The point of this thread is that people shouldn't be given the chance over other people who are showing themselves to be what some would consider more suitable for the job.

gregb 01-25-2006 05:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fal
The point of this thread is that people shouldn't be given the chance over other people who are showing themselves to be what some would consider more suitable for the job.

And who might these people be?

sleepy jack 01-25-2006 05:59 PM

Im not going to get involved any further but the time zone arguement is bull, PTS is on the west coast and all the other (american) mods are on the east coast. Like after 5:00pm my time no mods are on till aita, hes a good choice if your going by timezones...

mosesandtherubberducky 01-25-2006 06:34 PM

Is allnightdinah still a mod or did he lose/give up his modship?

TheBig3 01-25-2006 07:10 PM

And is Pimp_Racer still a mod, has anyone seen that guy in the past year?

mosesandtherubberducky 01-25-2006 08:25 PM

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Originally Posted by TheBig3KilledMyRainDog
And is Pimp_Racer still a mod, has anyone seen that guy in the past year?

I don't think so and I know what happened to Rockafella Skank. He went to some Ivy League college.

bungalow 01-25-2006 08:52 PM

Alright, PTS is a mod?!?!?! That is crazy. Nothing against him, but, weren't there some better choices? I like the guy and all but, there are many other people that would be more suitable for the job. Urban would be great, right track, I just dont understand.......

gregb 01-25-2006 11:46 PM

relax, there is still alot in the mix

adidasss 01-26-2006 01:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gregb
And who might these people be?

that question was answered, not only was it proper to ask urban and stu before perfection because of seniority, but the fact that we're being moderated by a 15 year old is not only rediculous but insulting ....

if you're going to choose another mod from the us, big3 would have been a far better and more deserving choice...

not only that, but this occured to me also:
iamalejo - emo/hardcore/punk
fenixpunk - punk
AITA - emo/hardcore
thrice - emo/hardcore
allnightdinah - emo/hardcore/punk
perfection - i have no idea but i would venture a guess that it's emo/hardcore
riseagainst - rock/metal

hmmmm.....nepotism? yes, and it sucks balls.....

and yes, the free masons REALLY DO RULE THE WORLD!!!!

/conspiracy theory

hookers with machineguns 01-26-2006 01:41 AM

hookers- punk, ska, reggae, soul, jazz, electro, indie, rap, 80s pop, country, folk, hXc, emo....


Pure egotism ;)

adidasss 01-26-2006 01:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hookers with machineguns
hookers- punk, ska, reggae, soul, jazz, electro, indie, rap, 80s pop, country, folk, hXc, emo....


Pure egotism ;)

what, no love for techno or house? how narrow minded you are.....

hiu 01-26-2006 01:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by adidasss
we need someone who's on when it's morning or afternoon in europe, so either from australia/new zealand

That sounds like me, too bad I don't frequent this board like some others. This place hands out mod ships willy nilly.

Quote:

Originally Posted by hookers with machineguns
hookers- punk, ska, reggae, soul, jazz, electro, indie, rap, 80s pop, country, folk, hXc, emo....


Pure egotism ;)

Since when were you demodded.

gregb 01-26-2006 11:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by adidasss
that question was answered, not only was it proper to ask urban and stu before perfection because of seniority, but the fact that we're being moderated by a 15 year old is not only rediculous but insulting ....

Senority by itself is a weak mod quality. I've met some 15 year olds who are more mature and capable than some 40 year olds. Give perfect a chance. We'll be announcing a few more promotions so relax.

Fenixpunk 01-26-2006 12:06 PM

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Originally Posted by adidasss
fenixpunk - punk


that hurts adidasss, you know damn well i listen to anything and everything. Just punk, pshh...how narrow minded do you think i am?

by the way, at the moment im listening to Dinah Washington - hardcore spit in your face dont give a **** punk ****ing rock.:usehead:

adidasss 01-26-2006 12:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Fenixpunk
that hurts adidasss, you know damn well i listen to anything and everything. Just punk, pshh...how narrow minded do you think i am?

by the way, at the moment im listening to Dinah Washington - hardcore spit in your face dont give a **** punk ****ing rock.:usehead:

yeah right man, you listen to bits and pieces of anything, but you're hardly as diverse as say hookers is, and you cannot deny the fact that your major music interest is and always will be punk, and i thought the connection i made about mods and the type of music they listen to ( thus the forums they mainly hang out in and the people they know ) was very insightful, allnightdinah was made mod because you really respect him, why? because he knows a shitload about punk, nevermind the fact that a mod is supposed to go arround the entire forum ,aaaaannd the much dreaded lounge, and half the people here had no idea who or what he is ( i just found out that he's a guy ).....that combined with perfection being made a mod ( which was completely out of the blue and absolutely noone supports the decision apart form those who suggested him ) really ticked me off, and i'm not the only one, and it clearly shows the way mods are made, by other mods, perpetuating the little elite circle.....

am i right or what?

gregb 01-26-2006 12:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by adidasss
yeah right man, you listen to bits and pieces of anything, but you're hardly as diverse as say hookers is, and you cannot deny the fact that your major music interest is and always will be punk, and i thought the connection i made about mods and the type of music they listen to ( thus the forums they mainly hang out in and the people they know ) was very insightful, allnightdinah was made mod because you really respect him, why? because he knows a shitload about punk, nevermind the fact that a mod is supposed to go arround the entire forum ,aaaaannd the much dreaded lounge, and half the people here had no idea who or what he is ( i just found out that he's a guy ).....that combined with perfection being made a mod ( which was completely out of the blue and absolutely noone supports the decision apart form those who suggested him ) really ticked me off, and i'm not the only one, and it clearly shows the way mods are made, by other mods, perpetuating the little elite circle.....

am i right or what?

I think your attack on fenixpunk is really out of line. Who cares who is more diverse, this isn't some competition. allnightdinah now demoded, had good potential, it didn't work out and now we've corrected our mistake. Big deal. The staff does come together and discuss new prospects. We do not promote based on pure friendships.

Fenixpunk 01-26-2006 12:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by adidasss
yeah right man, you listen to bits and pieces of anything, but you're hardly as diverse as say hookers is, and you cannot deny the fact that your major music interest is and always will be punk, and i thought the connection i made about mods and the type of music they listen to ( thus the forums they mainly hang out in and the people they know ) was very insightful, allnightdinah was made mod because you really respect him, why? because he knows a shitload about punk, nevermind the fact that a mod is supposed to go arround the entire forum ,aaaaannd the much dreaded lounge, and half the people here had no idea who or what he is ( i just found out that he's a guy ).....that combined with perfection being made a mod ( which was completely out of the blue and absolutely noone supports the decision apart form those who suggested him ) really ticked me off, and i'm not the only one, and it clearly shows the way mods are made, by other mods, perpetuating the little elite circle.....

am i right or what?


I dont think I was aware that AND was becoming a mod untill after he became one. We both are on another forum, one that is moderated very firmly and my respect for him is his way of thinking and his stand against certain issues, not his music collection.

adidasss 01-26-2006 12:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gregb
I think your attack on fenixpunk is really out of line. Who cares who is more diverse, this isn't some competition. allnightdinah now demoded, had good potential, it didn't work out and now we've corrected our mistake. Big deal. The staff does come together and discuss new prospects. We do not promote based on pure friendships.

what attack on fenix? i have no problems with the guy whatsoever, and think he's a fine mod, but i am positive that allnightdinah was made a mod because of his suggestion, which supports my theory about the recent mod nominations, who suggested perfection? hmmm......i'm pretty damn sure it wasn't any of us, and if i'd have to think really hard, i would say it was riseagainst......right? i thought so.....

gregb 01-26-2006 01:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by adidasss
which supports my theory about the recent mod nominations, who suggested perfection? hmmm......i'm pretty damn sure it wasn't any of us, and if i'd have to think really hard, i would say it was riseagainst......right? i thought so.....

Actually it was my independent decision and I'll stand by it. Besides that choice everyone else promoted is talked about between the staff and I see nothing wrong with how we come to our conclusions.

Barnard17 01-26-2006 01:16 PM

If the persons interests are an issue promote local mods rather than relying upon an entirely global basis.

sleepy jack 01-26-2006 01:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gregb
Senority by itself is a weak mod quality. I've met some 15 year olds who are more mature and capable than some 40 year olds. Give perfect a chance. We'll be announcing a few more promotions so relax.

I agree, age doesn't mean anything and I realize this is a music forum but as long as the person is checking the music forums and making sure its all on topic, music knowledge isn't required at all.

Quote:

Originally Posted by adidasss
Iamalejo - emo/hardcore/punk
fenixpunk - punk
AITA - emo/hardcore
thrice - emo/hardcore
allnightdinah - emo/hardcore/punk
perfection - i have no idea but i would venture a guess that it's emo/hardcore
riseagainst - rock/metal

I think thats stupid because just by that its kind of obvious you don't know them, AITA posts alot in rock and metal and general music just as much (maybe more) then in hardcore and emo. Thrice isn't a mod anymore, nor is all nite dinah. Perfection listens to hardcore/emo/punk/metal which are the most active boards and rise listens to a shiz load of stuff and considering the fact they're doing a fine job of modding its ok, i really don't think we need to elect some purely because they listen to *insert obscure non rock related genre here* because its (usually) barely an active forum. Just my two cents though.

Shooting Star 01-26-2006 01:16 PM

I've been to other forums and this one has a really involved administrating team, not to mention it seems open to criticism and is trying to make things better which is a very good thing in my useless opinion.

Fenixpunk 01-26-2006 01:17 PM

i suggested AND because of the way the guy thinks, i didnt pull any strings to make him a mod. Ive suggested a few people and point out why i think they should be a mod, doesnt have anything to do with friendships, age, or how long someone has been a member of this forum. I also dont see a problem with PTS becoming a mod. Everyone here seemed to like the kid before, now that hes a mod everyones jumping on his back. Give the kid a chance before you start slinging dirt at him. He may surprise you and be a damn good mod. It seems like everytime new mods are appointed there are those who complain about who was chosen and its usually the same handfull of people everytime. It looks like alot like a case of envy if you ask me (not that anybody would openly admit to it).


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