Crowquills Mod status. (lyrics, jazz, metal, punk, rock)

MHDTV · 08-17-2007, 08:00 PM

Sorry, consider most prog albums(DSOTM, Wish You Were Here, Moving Pictures, Ok Computer).

swim · 08-17-2007, 08:10 PM

ethan got me into emo

A_Perfect_Sonnet · 08-17-2007, 11:28 PM

You think Radiohead is prog?

MHDTV · 08-18-2007, 01:53 AM

Prog-metal if you want to be specific, like Dream Theater or Tool.

Seltzer · 08-18-2007, 02:26 AM

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Originally Posted by A_Perfect_Sonnet

You think Radiohead is prog?

Yep, I think Radiohead is prog, even if Thom Yorke would like to claim otherwise.

They do have a bit of an alt rock 'sound' at times I guess - it's hard to explain, but they have the kind of features which appeal to people who like alt rock too.

So with the complexity/variation of prog and the ability to meet the ideals of alt rock fans, they have a pretty large fanbase. It helps that they simply kick ass too.

TheBig3 · 08-18-2007, 08:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Seltzer

Hmmm... Crowquill. I'm not going to forget when he tried to claim that I hated Metallica like a typical metalhead

Are you sure that wasn't me?

And your complaints of MB are very valid, especially since you've been trying to improve it in that year we haven't seen your face.

sleepy jack · 08-18-2007, 05:11 PM

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Originally Posted by MHDTV

Prog-metal if you want to be specific, like Dream Theater or Tool.

Radiohead isn't metal, and when did I say I wasn't consider Pink Floyd? They're on the pending list, i've been gone all week christ.

sleepy jack · 08-18-2007, 07:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Seltzer

But on a music/general level, he isn't good. He is fairly biased in music and pretty poor at arguing... a bit close-minded. I'm not going to forget when he tried to claim that I hated Metallica like a typical metalhead simply because I said I disliked Hammett even though I said I loved Hetfield. He simply wouldn't take my word for it that I liked Metallica. And I remember the whole 'every prog band sounds like they're trying to be too technical' claim followed by a pitiful list of prog bands that he'd actually heard.

BIASED OPINION WHA!?

Sorry but I had to say it.

MHDTV · 08-18-2007, 08:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Crowquill

Radiohead isn't metal, and when did I say I wasn't consider Pink Floyd? They're on the pending list, i've been gone all week christ.

You kinda' threw me off with your DSOTM bashing. I won't respond to the Radiohead comment, just to keep things from going eve more off-topic. At this point it probably doesn't matter. Now for some smilies:
The Story of Crowquills Life:

Seltzer · 08-18-2007, 09:55 PM

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Originally Posted by TheBig3KilledMyRainDog

Are you sure that wasn't me?

And your complaints of MB are very valid, especially since you've been trying to improve it in that year we haven't seen your face.

Nope, it was Crowquill. Read starting from this: (link)

>Maybe you didn't read my post properly, did I say you hated Metallica? No I just think you're boasting the same 'typical METALLICA SUX crap metal fans >seem to constantly bring up' in regards to their musicianship.

Whether my complaints are valid and whether I've tried to improve MB are two different things. Yes, my complaints are valid. And no, I can't do anything to improve MB because I have no power to do that, in the same way that I can't lower unemployment rates. I can't change how other people act.

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Originally Posted by Crowquill

BIASED OPINION WHA!?

Sorry but I had to say it.

You disown practically anything attached to the title 'metal' or 'prog' - it seems like you hold a grudge against most music that involves any kind of technical skill. I think it's more the fact that you're only open to one idealised type of music. Sorry if this sounds stupid because it is hard to explain so I'll give an example. I like thrash metal - I find it to be a fairly consistent genre and while I listen to it because I like the musicianship and energy etc. I doubt I'll ever consider a thrash metal band to be one of my favourite bands ever. This is because I am open to the ideals of thrash, but most thrash bands just aren't superior enough for me to consider them my favourite band - they don't have my preferred ideals.

What I'm saying is, I guess you set your ideals more by lyrics, vocals and a certain type of instrumentation which you find to carry emotion. If the instrumentation is technical, you are less likely to judge it as emotive. While my preferred ideals tend to lie in atmosphere and progression, my ideals are open so I can enjoy many types of music. Here are a few examples of musical ideals based on genres:

Prog rock = Progression, songwriting instrumentation, technical instrumentation, atmosphere
Punk rock / thrash metal = Immediate catchiness (opposite to progression), riff dependent, energy
Jazz = Songwriting instrumentation, Theory instrumentation, technical instrumentation
Post rock = Atmosphere, progression
Folk = Lyrics, acoustic instrumentation

Rather than saying someone is biased towards a genre, sometimes it's better to say their musical ideals fit certain genres. Of course, these are only ideals and there are thrash metal bands with progression, jazz which focusses more on immediate catchiness and folk which uses electric instruments.

If you want I'll see if I can find any examples later on. I'm a bit busy with studying right now.

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