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Engine 06-26-2011 09:36 PM

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Originally Posted by oojay (Post 1077372)
Or this:



For as much grief as The Virgin gets on here for being a "troll", you're the one baiting him into an argument, whether you realize it or not (which I'm pretty sure you do).

oojay, that's why I said "I probably shouldn't have even written this..."

It's because I don't care for his presence here and I don't care to deal with him or his response to me. I truly don't. I'll ignore him like I always have when he does. If he ignores my post then I'll respect him for that. If he wants to argue with me then I won't respond, like I said.

I was trying to communicate something to Il Duce along the lines of "leave it the fuck alone" so that TV might stop cluttering MB with irritating nonsense. He makes no sense and I don't like it. That's just my opinion.

However, I know TV will stay and continue to spew bullshit and as long as others (such as Il Duce) egg him on. He might do that no matter what, I don't know.

The reason I bothered to post what I did is because he (TV) annoys me. I don't care at all about his musical (or other) opinions but almost all of his posts still manage to annoy me in some way and, unfortunately for me, I notice it.

Trust me, I won't argue with him about anything ever. His posts just bug me and I guess it also bugs me that Il Duce responds to just about everything he says. That's all.

Queen Boo 06-26-2011 09:57 PM

Damn, things really have not been the best around this place lately, have they?

Dr_Rez 06-26-2011 10:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Tumor (Post 1077382)
Damn, things really have not been the best around this place lately, have they?

When you are not here everything falls apart. There i said it LOVE WILL TEAR US APART.

Howard the Duck 06-26-2011 11:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Engine (Post 1077376)
oojay, that's why I said "I probably shouldn't have even written this..."

It's because I don't care for his presence here and I don't care to deal with him or his response to me. I truly don't. I'll ignore him like I always have when he does. If he ignores my post then I'll respect him for that. If he wants to argue with me then I won't respond, like I said.

I was trying to communicate something to Il Duce along the lines of "leave it the fuck alone" so that TV might stop cluttering MB with irritating nonsense. He makes no sense and I don't like it. That's just my opinion.

However, I know TV will stay and continue to spew bullshit and as long as others (such as Il Duce) egg him on. He might do that no matter what, I don't know.

The reason I bothered to post what I did is because he (TV) annoys me. I don't care at all about his musical (or other) opinions but almost all of his posts still manage to annoy me in some way and, unfortunately for me, I notice it.

Trust me, I won't argue with him about anything ever. His posts just bug me and I guess it also bugs me that Il Duce responds to just about everything he says. That's all.

that's if this place is the Alpha and (Deathspell) Omega for you

for me, this place is just to past time, when i'm bored at work

if you see the majority of my posts, they're mostly flippant and frivolous and i only take music debates seriously

MB is mostly just for sharpening my linguistic and debating skills, if i do take it seriously

Guybrush 06-27-2011 12:04 AM

Those who frequently find The Virgin's presence on these boards to be more disturbing than it's worth, consider adding him to your ignore list. Just click User CP and under Settings & Options, you'll find Edit Ignore List. There you can add him.

The Virgin, I won't be able to read any reply you write me directly, but you're the first member I've ever put on ignore. Congrats!

Dr_Rez 06-27-2011 01:03 AM

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Originally Posted by tore (Post 1077412)
Those who frequently find The Virgin's presence on these boards to be more disturbing than it's worth, consider adding him to your ignore list. Just click User CP and under Settings & Options, you'll find Edit Ignore List. There you can add him.

The Virgin, I won't be able to read any reply you write me directly, but you're the first member I've ever put on ignore. Congrats!

Cool, thanks tore. I didnt even know you could do that. Does that mean all previous posts will not be seeable as well?

Howard the Duck 06-27-2011 03:51 AM

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Originally Posted by RezZ (Post 1077437)
Cool, thanks tore. I didnt even know you could do that. Does that mean all previous posts will not be seeable as well?

look if everybody put him on ignore, he'll leave

TheCunningStunt 06-27-2011 03:59 AM

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Originally Posted by tore (Post 1077412)
Those who frequently find The Virgin's presence on these boards to be more disturbing than it's worth, consider adding him to your ignore list. Just click User CP and under Settings & Options, you'll find Edit Ignore List. There you can add him.

The Virgin, I won't be able to read any reply you write me directly, but you're the first member I've ever put on ignore. Congrats!

Fantastic. Added to my ignore list as well.

The Virgin 06-27-2011 04:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Engine (Post 1077341)
He's either just really stupid / ignorant / undereducated
or
a desperate attention seeker.

neither of the options. on the other hand, i believe you're the one who'se being the ignorant, attention seeker. never have i made responses or mentioned you in my posts, and now you say negative things on me? now who'se the attention seeker?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Engine (Post 1077341)
He's either just really stupid / ignorant / Cursory empirical research makes this obvious and I don't care enough to make a hypothesis. Of course none of those traits alone are worthy of a ban. He'll either go away or not.

you don't care enough to make a hypothesis but you do care enough to write insults? you're really something huh?

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Originally Posted by Engine (Post 1077341)
He's either just really stupid / ignorant / I probably shouldn't have even written this because he'll inevitably respond.

see? over and over and over again, you're trying to insult me. and luckily, you'll get away with it cause of the very plain reason, they'll side on you.

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Originally Posted by Engine (Post 1077341)
He's either just really stupid / ignorant / The best approach I can think of is to ignore his response to this post and also ignore any other post he makes. I'll do that and I advise you to do the same, Il Duce. It looks like he's got you baited more than anyone.

i envy you cause you can say a million times those insults to me and no one would think you're trolling. on the other hand, when it's me, i bet i'll get series of infraction by now.

Quote:

Originally Posted by oojay (Post 1077355)
You expect someone not to respond when you make a derogatory post about them? Were you born yesterday?

I still don't understand all the hate for The Virgin. I find that he brings some much needed levity to the boards. His musical opinions and tastes may not be as evolved as other peoples', but he still stands behind them, which is respectable.

thanks oojay.

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Originally Posted by Engine (Post 1077376)
oojay, that's why I said "I probably shouldn't have even written this..."

It's because I don't care for his presence here and I don't care to deal with him or his response to me. I truly don't. I'll ignore him like I always have when he does. If he ignores my post then I'll respect him for that. If he wants to argue with me then I won't respond, like I said.

that would be a very smart choice. unfortunately, you're not.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Engine (Post 1077376)
I was trying to communicate something to Il Duce along the lines of "leave it the fuck alone" so that TV might stop cluttering MB with irritating nonsense. He makes no sense and I don't like it. That's just my opinion.

you might just want to keep your opinion by yourself, you just sounded stupid saying that.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Engine (Post 1077376)
However, I know TV will stay and continue to spew bullshit and as long as others (such as Il Duce) egg him on. He might do that no matter what, I don't know.

if spewing means standing to my musical beliefs and taste and staying true to what i really love, musically, then yes, i'm spewing.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Engine (Post 1077376)
The reason I bothered to post what I did is because he (TV) annoys me. I don't care at all about his musical (or other) opinions but almost all of his posts still manage to annoy me in some way and, unfortunately for me, I notice it.

newsflash! a lot of people annoys me here too, do respond or create posts saying so? no. cause i've got more self-respect than that.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Engine (Post 1077376)
Trust me, I won't argue with him about anything ever. His posts just bug me and I guess it also bugs me that Il Duce responds to just about everything he says. That's all.

good.

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Originally Posted by tore (Post 1077412)
The Virgin, I won't be able to read any reply you write me directly, but you're the first member I've ever put on ignore. Congrats!

thank you. that's far better than receiving stupid insults.

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Originally Posted by TheCunningStunt (Post 1077471)
Fantastic. Added to my ignore list as well.

thanks...!

EvilChuck 06-27-2011 05:11 AM

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Originally Posted by tore (Post 1077412)
Those who frequently find The Virgin's presence on these boards to be more disturbing than it's worth, consider adding him to your ignore list. Just click User CP and under Settings & Options, you'll find Edit Ignore List. There you can add him.

The Virgin, I won't be able to read any reply you write me directly, but you're the first member I've ever put on ignore. Congrats!

Its glorious!

GuitarBizarre 06-27-2011 06:55 AM

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Originally Posted by The Virgin (Post 1077478)
neither of the options. on the other hand, i believe you're the one who'se being the ignorant, attention seeker. never have i made responses or mentioned you in my posts, and now you say negative things on me? now who'se the attention seeker?



you don't care enough to make a hypothesis but you do care enough to write insults? you're really something huh?



see? over and over and over again, you're trying to insult me. and luckily, you'll get away with it cause of the very plain reason, they'll side on you.



i envy you cause you can say a million times those insults to me and no one would think you're trolling. on the other hand, when it's me, i bet i'll get series of infraction by now.



thanks oojay.



that would be a very smart choice. unfortunately, you're not.



you might just want to keep your opinion by yourself, you just sounded stupid saying that.



if spewing means standing to my musical beliefs and taste and staying true to what i really love, musically, then yes, i'm spewing.



newsflash! a lot of people annoys me here too, do respond or create posts saying so? no. cause i've got more self-respect than that.



good.



thank you. that's far better than receiving stupid insults.



thanks...!


Gentlemen, I present to you the problem with the ignore feature. Quotes.

In other news, Virgin, you really should probably stop posting before people get tired of having to deal with you intentionally baiting people. You're not subtle, and everyone knows what you're doing.

Urban Hat€monger ? 06-27-2011 10:50 AM

I tried putting him on ignore but it's totally pointless because everybody else just argues with him.
So i'm going to stop posting altogether until he's removed.

Paedantic Basterd 06-27-2011 10:57 AM

Well, that's your prerogative. Unfortunately, he's not directly violating the rules, there is an impasse in regards to whether or not he's trolling, and any judgment made on the situation will result in an uprising.

I'm sorry to see you go.

right-track 06-27-2011 11:13 AM

I agree with Pedestrian, although I don't think you should stop posting Urban.
In fact I'd hate this place if you did.

Here's my take on The Virgin. Yes, he's annoying. Yes he's an attention seeker.
Putting him on ignore won't solve the problem (those who have one, that is) and won't make him go away.
Now I know I've been guilty of rattling his cage, calling him out and generally baiting him around the boards.
Not because I don't like him, but because I think he's here more for himself and his internet/real life persona, than he his for any other reason.
What I have discovered about this individual though is his strength of character.

Virgin...I'm impressed by the way you handle yourself on these boards.
And you have my respect for that.
The only thing I ask you to do is stop banging on about yourself in just about every thread I read.
You're not doing yourself, or MB any favours.
Do yourself a favour and settle down!

btw, you won't be going on my ignore list.
To do something like that would only prove to myself that the problem I have with you, would be my fault and not yours.

Hope that's a compromise?

Queen Boo 06-27-2011 11:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Virgin (Post 1077478)
you just sounded stupid saying that.






thank you. that's far better than receiving stupid insults.

hahahahahhahah, YOU called HIM stupid. hahahahhahaha.

The Batlord 06-27-2011 11:38 AM

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Originally Posted by EvilChuck (Post 1077483)
Its glorious!

He's gone!

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3002/...eb55c6bff4.jpg

EvilChuck 06-27-2011 12:24 PM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord (Post 1077601)

Off topic somewhat, but the shirt that guy is wearing is beautiful. I love dark shirts with blue/purple designs, such a sleek combination.

Howard the Duck 06-27-2011 04:30 PM

i am pretty much ambivalent about Thee Virgin by now

i am also gonna be his trollbait less now because I'm just too lazy to "serve" him

Scarlett O'Hara 06-27-2011 04:32 PM

Please can we go back on topic, last time I checked The Virgin isn't banned so WHY do we need to discuss him? If you would like to complain about him, please report his posts.

Dr_Rez 06-27-2011 10:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Urban Hatemonger (Post 1077575)
I tried putting him on ignore but it's totally pointless because everybody else just argues with him.
So i'm going to stop posting altogether until he's removed.

You are as noble as this man:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...x-MKGandhi.jpg

At least to Musicbanter.

Also I noticed that problem as well. Sure I dont see his garbage but everyone elses is about it, including my own :(

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pedestrian (Post 1077579)
Well, that's your prerogative. Unfortunately, he's not directly violating the rules, there is an impasse in regards to whether or not he's trolling, and any judgment made on the situation will result in an uprising.

I'm sorry to see you go.

Just curious, an uprising by whom? I dont think anyone here would argue with the fact of him only posting here to serve as a troll. And I dont know the rules word by word but isnt constant trolling a ban worthy offense?

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Originally Posted by Vanilla (Post 1077827)
Please can we go back on topic, last time I checked The Virgin isn't banned so WHY do we need to discuss him? If you would like to complain about him, please report his posts.

In all fairness this is the When someone is banned thread, which makes all of the When someone should be banned talk automatically appear here.

crash_override 06-27-2011 11:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pedestrian (Post 1077579)
Well, that's your prerogative. Unfortunately, he's not directly violating the rules, there is an impasse in regards to whether or not he's trolling, and any judgment made on the situation will result in an uprising.

I'm sorry to see you go.

Has there been a vote, or at least some sort of deliberation by the mods on the issue?

This reminds me of the infamous coryallen2 / mirrorball95 situation of '09, which may have been before your time. Basically those two guys were banned for doing the same thing as The Virgin. They trolled around, made hundreds of pointless and irritating posts per day, and subtly incited and provoked other members, seemingly for their own amusement and to attract attention to themselves.

Not only do I think the banning of The Virgin would be sanctioned by the majority of seasoned members, but I also think that it could bring some much needed consistency to the moderation of this site.

I personally don't think it's fair to let him stay on, having contributed nothing but detriment since his joining us, while other more contributing members continue to be banned for questionable offenses.

In conclusion, I support the movement to ban The Virgin, based on precedent that has previously been set in similar cases.

Dr_Rez 06-27-2011 11:56 PM

Dont forget WendyCal. rip

Scarlett O'Hara 06-28-2011 12:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by crash_override (Post 1078030)
Has there been a vote, or at least some sort of deliberation by the mods on the issue?

This reminds me of the infamous coryallen2 / mirrorball95 situation of '09, which may have been before your time. Basically those two guys were banned for doing the same thing as The Virgin. They trolled around, made hundreds of pointless and irritating posts per day, and subtly incited and provoked other members, seemingly for their own amusement and to attract attention to themselves.

Not only do I think the banning of The Virgin would be sanctioned by the majority of seasoned members, but I also think that it could bring some much needed consistency to the moderation of this site.

I personally don't think it's fair to let him stay on, having contributed nothing but detriment since his joining us, while other more contributing members continue to be banned for questionable offenses.

In conclusion, I support the movement to ban The Virgin, based on precedent that has previously been set in similar cases.

I agree with this. It's work in progress right now. I'm campaigning for it!

Dr_Rez 06-28-2011 01:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vanilla (Post 1078042)
I agree with this. It's work in progress right now. I'm campaigning for it!

:love:

Farfisa 06-28-2011 03:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Vanilla (Post 1078042)
I agree with this. It's work in progress right now. I'm campaigning for it!

Oh god, I think I love you.

ThePhanastasio 06-28-2011 04:06 AM

I think it's completely ****ty that everyone on this forum is jumping on this guy's back in a public manner. Right here, for all to see.

Really cool of you guys...

Farfisa 06-28-2011 04:17 AM

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Originally Posted by ThePhanastasio (Post 1078122)
I think it's completely ****ty that everyone on this forum is jumping on this guy's back in a public manner. Right here, for all to see.

Really cool of you guys...

You know, there's a reason for that. He's pretty much offended everyone on the forum save for a few people. We're sick of it, he becomes the topic of every thread he goes in and it ruins everything. His posts are outlandishly stupid and someone always replies and it becomes a debate of idiotic proportions. I'm done replying to him, but if he honestly stays I think a lot of good members will just leave the forum altogether.

Howard the Duck 06-28-2011 04:29 AM

oi've been angry and oi considered leaving cos of him

now oi just don't care

ThePhanastasio 06-28-2011 04:31 AM

I guess I'm just not the type of person to scream for a person's head if they rub me the wrong way. I just don't respond to them and move on about my life.

Sorry.

djchameleon 06-28-2011 04:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ThePhanastasio (Post 1078129)
I guess I'm just not the type of person to scream for a person's head if they rub me the wrong way. I just don't respond to them and move on about my life.

Sorry.

you aren't alone there are a few of us that don't really care too much about what he says and are able to ignore his silly commentary

I know this is probably funny coming from me but some people are just a tad bit too sensitive.

crash_override 06-28-2011 05:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ThePhanastasio (Post 1078122)
I think it's completely ****ty that everyone on this forum is jumping on this guy's back in a public manner. Right here, for all to see.

Really cool of you guys...

I have a policy against talking about people behind their backs, he should know that I don't like the way he has treated his stay here. I'd rather him know he's doing wrong and that I think he deserves a ban than him just wake up one day and be banned and clueless.

I'm sorry you don't approve, but I just feel like it's better to get this stuff out in the open and convey my feelings to others; rather than bottling up hate and holding grudges. Then we'd all just be a bunch of Il Duce's.

Howard the Duck 06-28-2011 05:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by crash_override (Post 1078141)
I have a policy against talking about people behind their backs, he should know that I don't like the way he has treated his stay here. I'd rather him know he's doing wrong and that I think he deserves a ban than him just wake up one day and be banned and clueless.

I'm sorry you don't approve, but I just feel like it's better to get this stuff out in the open and convey my feelings to others; rather than bottling up hate and holding grudges. Then we'd all just be a bunch of Il Duce's.

i don't hate him nor bottle any grudge, i'm just used to him by now

and he's subscribing to this thread, so he'll see all this sooner or later

look, let's all be rational objective democratic folk

why don't somebody start a poll, inquiring as to whether Thee Virgin should be banned?

if the majority of people voting there exceeds 2/3rd (approximately), then we pressure the mods

then one of the mod will issue a stern warning to him to stop all the nonsense, otherwise he'd be banned

if he insists on his ways here, then ban his motherfucking ass

and just FYI, i'd vote "yes" cos objectively, he is spoiling the quality of this forum

before he came, i enjoyed everybody's company, and enjoyed having a healthy debate

now it's mostly people pissing on him or laughing AT him, not with him

FaSho 06-28-2011 06:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by crash_override (Post 1078030)
This reminds me of the infamous coryallen2 / mirrorball95 situation of '09, which may have been before your time. Basically those two guys were banned for doing the same thing as The Virgin. They trolled around, made hundreds of pointless and irritating posts per day, and subtly incited and provoked other members, seemingly for their own amusement and to attract attention to themselves.

And their bannings were not debated at all. Praised rather,for finally getting rid of them. Music Banter is a different place than it was two years ago. The members are much whinier. inb4 someone throws that back in my face and says "all of you are whining because The Virgin is not banned", to which I respond: Because the mods have not taken any action though a precedent has been set. That's not a 'factor that should be weighed with all the others'. that's a deciding point for the sake of the forum being consistent. I mean, coryallen2 was given multiple shorter bans before being permad if I recall correctly. So has the virgin, and yet his posts have not changed.

Kevorkian Logic 06-28-2011 08:16 AM

http://i.imgur.com/9m9RX.jpg

Concerning banning and the much heated debate (people getting all twisted and pissy at the mods when they ban people).

Someone made this nice little chart as a joke at the forum I mod and I all think we could take something away from it, if you catch my drift.


And no I am not Pi Mu Rho. It seems pretty obvious which one of the remaining four I am :)

Howard the Duck 06-28-2011 08:46 AM

^^ i don geddit

Kevorkian Logic 06-28-2011 09:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Il Duce (Post 1078184)
^^ i don geddit

Who mods tend to ban should not be up to democratic vote. They were chosen as mods based on experience and shown intelligence. Even though their decisions may seem arbitrary at times (some mods more than others) you just have to deal with it.

For example, on the other forum I ban people (for short times) for being a pain in the ass to explain things to and being thick-headed about really obvious rules and decisions. Am I always right or consistent in my banning? Absolutely not, but usually I am right and it is in my power to be arbitrary.

The Batlord 06-28-2011 09:25 AM

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Originally Posted by loose_lips_sink_ships (Post 1078126)
You know, there's a reason for that. He's pretty much offended everyone on the forum save for a few people. We're sick of it, he becomes the topic of every thread he goes in and it ruins everything. His posts are outlandishly stupid and someone always replies and it becomes a debate of idiotic proportions. I'm done replying to him, but if he honestly stays I think a lot of good members will just leave the forum altogether.

This x10.

[MERIT] 06-28-2011 01:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Il Duce (Post 1078150)
why don't somebody start a poll, inquiring as to whether Thee Virgin should be banned?

Honestly, this is the most idiotic thing that I have ever seen you post, and that speaks volumes.

The Virgin isn't hurting anyone. If you don't want to see his posts, add him to your ignore list. And go ahead and add me to it as well, because anyone who wants to start voting off members like an episode of Survivor isn't worth my time.

Howard the Duck 06-28-2011 09:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by oojay (Post 1078283)
Honestly, this is the most idiotic thing that I have ever seen you post, and that speaks volumes.

The Virgin isn't hurting anyone. If you don't want to see his posts, add him to your ignore list. And go ahead and add me to it as well, because anyone who wants to start voting off members like an episode of Survivor isn't worth my time.

since mostly everybody here hates him?

Neapolitan 06-28-2011 10:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by oojay (Post 1078283)
Honestly, this is the most idiotic thing that I have ever seen you post, and that speaks volumes.

The Virgin isn't hurting anyone. If you don't want to see his posts, add him to your ignore list. And go ahead and add me to it as well, because anyone who wants to start voting off members like an episode of Survivor isn't worth my time.

^Exactly this forum is called "Music Banter" not "Survivor: Music Banter Island: Cyber Edition" or something like that - you get the point.


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