Should People Posting Nothing But Youtube Videos Be Treated As Spammers ?

right-track · 08-21-2011, 06:20 AM

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Originally Posted by VEGANGELICA

How can it be a representative decision if the mods don't actually consult with the members they "represent?"

You know, right-track, when we fight it just makes more drama. If you really didn't want drama, you would just agree with me.

God help this site if ever you become a mod.
Nothing would ever get done!

Paedantic Basterd · 08-21-2011, 07:06 AM

It's literally no different from a user whose posts contain only pictures, especially because we know nearly nobody actually watches the videos posted.

djchameleon · 08-21-2011, 09:08 AM

Eni

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Originally Posted by Pedestrian

It's literally no different from a user whose posts contain only pictures, especially because we know nearly nobody actually watches the videos posted.

Yeah but you don't know that. You are just basing it off of what you and a few vocal members gripe about.

I love the What you are listening to thread, I take some time out to go through them in the hopes of finding something I may like that I would have never looked up.

skaltezon · 08-21-2011, 10:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Pedestrian

It's literally no different from a user whose posts contain only pictures, especially because we know nearly nobody actually watches the videos posted.

How do you know that?

Necromancer · 08-21-2011, 10:25 AM

I don't think anyone here wants to lose his or her's right to post youtube videos. Its all being a little over exaggerated in my opinion.

We're talking about simple limitations and certain rules that should be followed and applied within any community, in order for it to function 100%.

Ive been corrected here at MB at least twice by Moderators through the years for posting too many music videos. And I took that as being constructive criticism instead of being persistent or offended by it.

Its not really that big of a deal if you just use common sense.

Sneer · 08-21-2011, 12:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Pedestrian

It's literally no different from a user whose posts contain only pictures, especially because we know nearly nobody actually watches the videos posted.

I watch the videos people post, and I'm sure others do too, they can be a great way of stumbling upon new music.

A video can sometimes express something the poster cannot articulate in words, they can be great for succinctly getting a message across. I'm all for video posts if they serve a purpose, and if the member posting said video is a frequent, constructive contributor.

midnight rain · 08-21-2011, 01:09 PM

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Originally Posted by right-track

Let the mods decide between them. They're the ones entrusted with making these kind of decisions, not the members.
It's one of the responsibilities of being a mod.

Yes, but who are new mods chosen by? Old mods. If we want mods to make decisions like this (and entrust them with it, in the process, as you said) maybe it ought to be up to the members to decide who the new mods are that they can trust. Otherwise the members really never are a part of the forums decision-making. They are the ones, after all, that make the forum what it is.

Also, as the poll results show, the mods and members are clearly at odds on this matter. So obviously the mods aren't representing the members of MB very well with this.

right-track · 08-21-2011, 01:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Tuna

Yes, but who are new mods chosen by? Old mods. If we want mods to make decisions like this (and entrust them with it, in the process, as you said) maybe it ought to be up to the members to decide who the new mods are that they can trust. Otherwise the members really never are a part of the forums decision-making. They are the ones, after all, that make the forum what it is.

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Originally Posted by right-track

No they aren't. They just bog everything down for ages and make ordinary decisions a bit of a drama.
In the end, some members who don't get their own way feel slightly aggrieved after post replying their opinions, when I really don't think they would have given a toss over something like this had the decision been made for them.
We have 12 mods out of a number of between 50 and 60 regular members.
I'm sure that between them they can come up with a sensible and representative decision.

For the same reasons as stated above.

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Originally Posted by Tuna

Also, as the poll results show, the mods and members are clearly at odds on this matter. So obviously the mods aren't representing the members of MB very well with this.

I think the results so far are due to a general misunderstanding by some.
The thread isn't a call for all vids posted without an additional comment, but for the ones posted by some who can't be bothered to comment at all.
I think that point has already been covered earlier.
I don't think some members have voted with that point in consideration.

Just to point out...it's a little unfair of me to complain about threads like this, in this particular thread.
If I know Urban, I'm sure he'll agree with most of what I've said. At least in principle.
And I'm sure he's got his reasons for creating this thread in the first place.

Btw...I don't think they should be treated as spam. More that they should be treated as being, fucking bone idle!

Urban Hat€monger ? · 08-21-2011, 02:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Tuna

Also, as the poll results show, the mods and members are clearly at odds on this matter. So obviously the mods aren't representing the members of MB very well with this.

This thread was started due to members wanting the issue discussed not the mods. We're simply consulting the membership.
Mods can express personal opinions on it but so far no mods have made a collective decision about it so I don't really see how you can say the members and the mods are at odds when no decision has been made.

midnight rain · 08-21-2011, 03:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Urban Hatemonger

This thread was started due to members wanting the issue discussed not the mods. We're simply consulting the membership.
Mods can express personal opinions on it but so far no mods have made a collective decision about it so I don't really see how you can say the members and the mods are at odds when no decision has been made.

No decision has been made but the preferences on the matter show that mods and members want something different. Unless, as r-t suggested,they're misunderstanding the concept of this new idea.

But if the mods had acted on it without taking into account member's opinions, as r-t wanted, then they would in fact be at odds with the members.

My post was in response to r-t's suggested situation, not reality.

View Poll Results: Should Posts With Youtube Videos And No Other Content Be Treated As Spam?
Yes	9	28.13%
No	23	71.88%
Voters: 32. You may not vote on this poll

08-21-2011, 07:06 AM	#32 (permalink)
Paedantic Basterd Music Addict Join Date: Sep 2010 Posts: 5,184	It's literally no different from a user whose posts contain only pictures, especially because we know nearly nobody actually watches the videos posted.

08-21-2011, 10:25 AM	#35 (permalink)
Necromancer Divination Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 2,655	I don't think anyone here wants to lose his or her's right to post youtube videos. Its all being a little over exaggerated in my opinion. We're talking about simple limitations and certain rules that should be followed and applied within any community, in order for it to function 100%. Ive been corrected here at MB at least twice by Moderators through the years for posting too many music videos. And I took that as being constructive criticism instead of being persistent or offended by it. Its not really that big of a deal if you just use common sense.