Should People Posting Nothing But Youtube Videos Be Treated As Spammers ?

skaltezon · 08-22-2011, 05:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Urban Hatemonger

As in you seem to be trying way to hard to create confrontation, something that hasn't gone unnoticed by others.
The last part of your post was totally unnecessary. If you want to stick around here I suggest you cut out making comments like that right now.

Oooooo, others. If countering a careless insult with a deliberate one is confrontational, I spose I'm guilty. I'll put your suggestion in a special folder I've reserved for that purpose.

Urban Hat€monger ? · 08-22-2011, 05:56 PM

and i'll put you in a special folder marked banned till tomorrow.

Zer0 · 08-22-2011, 05:58 PM

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Originally Posted by skaltezon

We're not talking about effort. Effort in selecting a youtube video could involve a lot of searching and comparing that doesn't show up on the boards. We're talking about what people like, and that's a valid point. I don't see anything interesting in the journals, so I'd be in favor of removing them from the board altogether. Make it one of the clubs that a person has to join to gain access.

So you want to see the journals gone just because you don't see anything interesting in them. Well what about everyone else? If you don't see any interesting journals well then go create your own one.

EDIT: oh wait he's banned now, nevermind

djchameleon · 08-22-2011, 06:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Zer0

So you want to see the journals gone just because you don't see anything interesting in them. Well what about everyone else? If you don't see any interesting journals well then go create your own one.

EDIT: oh wait he's banned now, nevermind

The point that he was foolishly trying to make is just because you think something is rubbish doesn't mean that others feel the same way, they may find value in it. Just because a select few don't see value in something there needs to be limits imposed

Dr_Rez · 08-22-2011, 10:35 PM

No they should not. Posting a embedded video just makes it easy for me to listen to what they are recommending or talking about. If there is no label for the video then yes spamming. It needs to at least tell me the artist and song.

Freebase Dali · 08-22-2011, 10:51 PM

Ugh.. I'm definitely not supporting video embedding limits AT ALL.
I really don't think we need to create a restrictive limit to address a problem that could be solved IF and WHEN it becomes one, simply by moderators doing what moderators do.

I think the same goes for this entire topic. We don't need to call something spam unless we're sure it's spam. Putting stuff like this in black & white just detracts from our ability to exercise judgment and do our job. I think things like this are case-by-case, and they should remain that way.

Howard the Duck · 08-22-2011, 11:08 PM

i'm pretty much ambivalent about it

i don't even go to youtubes people post here

i only used to post because of herd mentality

now that youtube is blocked at work, it's more of a moot point for me

Sparky · 08-22-2011, 11:57 PM

can we please not put restrictions on how many youtube videos per post, thats super unnecessary.Everyone has high speed internet now it doesn't matter.

VEGANGELICA · 08-23-2011, 12:10 AM

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Originally Posted by djchameleon

The point that he was foolishly trying to make is just because you think something is rubbish doesn't mean that others feel the same way, they may find value in it. Just because a select few don't see value in something there needs to be limits imposed

Agreed, dj, except for the 'foolish' part.

As I pointed out in my previous long post, Love-song has put her heart and soul into her video posts in addition to some commentary while also interacting with other members. If that isn't quality, what *is* quality?

I'm more concerned whether the quality of the community environment at MusicBanter invites people to share their feelings and opinions about music, and less concerned about how detailed their write-ups and opinions are about music they hear.

"Banter" means to speak or address in a witty, teasing, pleasant manner, after all. I don't think "banter" means telling people, "Die, spammer! **** off!"

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Originally Posted by Freebase Dali

Ugh.. I'm definitely not supporting video embedding limits AT ALL. I really don't think we need to create a restrictive limit to address a problem that could be solved IF and WHEN it becomes one, simply by moderators doing what moderators do.

I think the same goes for this entire topic. We don't need to call something spam unless we're sure it's spam. Putting stuff like this in black & white just detracts from our ability to exercise judgment and do our job. I think things like this are case-by-case, and they should remain that way.

I agree about not supporting video embedding limits. Isn't there a limit right now anyway, perhaps 10?

I feel it is important to define what posts are considered "Spam" on MusicBanter (hence this thread). Janszoon provided a good video defining what spam is, and posting Youtube videos wasn't listed as an example.

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Originally Posted by Urban Hatemonger

and i'll put you in a special folder marked banned till tomorrow.

If it is acceptable to call Love-song's posts "rubbish" and suggest or say she is a spammer, despite all the evidence I provided to the contrary, why isn't it acceptable to say that a moderator's posts are rubbish?

After reading Love-song's posts and comments, did you feel her posts warrant her being considered a "spammer," even when she explains that she is posting song videos and appreciating them due to her love for the man in her life who is overseas (presumably in the military)?

Paedantic Basterd · 08-23-2011, 12:27 AM

Is there a way to allow users to enable/disable youtube videos from their profiles in the way that we can disable signatures? This is another potential route around the issue.

View Poll Results: Should Posts With Youtube Videos And No Other Content Be Treated As Spam?
Yes	9	28.13%
No	23	71.88%
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08-22-2011, 10:51 PM	#76 (permalink)
Freebase Dali Partying on the inside Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 5,584	Ugh.. I'm definitely not supporting video embedding limits AT ALL. I really don't think we need to create a restrictive limit to address a problem that could be solved IF and WHEN it becomes one, simply by moderators doing what moderators do. I think the same goes for this entire topic. We don't need to call something spam unless we're sure it's spam. Putting stuff like this in black & white just detracts from our ability to exercise judgment and do our job. I think things like this are case-by-case, and they should remain that way.

08-22-2011, 11:57 PM	#78 (permalink)
Sparky not really Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 5,223	can we please not put restrictions on how many youtube videos per post, thats super unnecessary.Everyone has high speed internet now it doesn't matter.

08-23-2011, 12:27 AM	#80 (permalink)
Paedantic Basterd Music Addict Join Date: Sep 2010 Posts: 5,184	Is there a way to allow users to enable/disable youtube videos from their profiles in the way that we can disable signatures? This is another potential route around the issue.