LoathsomePete

Maybe people don't feel like staying around because of the immediate bias they get for liking bands like Pearl Jam? Seriously, I've been a member of this forum for three years now and a mod for over two and the reception this individual has received has been appalling.

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Freebase Dali

Our imminent problem is not proxy in nature. It's very specific to a few ISPs in China. These guys get paid to do what they're doing, so we have no shortage of new ranges to find and ban on a daily basis.
It's just tedious because we can't ban the entire IP range owned by a particular ISP, because the IPs are spread to other locations geographically. So it's a matter of getting spammed enough to figure out a network pattern and take care of it, doing the same whenever another pattern emerges.
They're still contained within a few particular ISPs, though, so there isn't a lack of hope that this particular infestation will end.

Guybrush

I'd happily leave this site for a forum where administration shows it cares about the community. So if the day comes, count me in.

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Key

Ohhh I getcha. And I know of that issue pretty well. Some emails would come in with some of the same email addresses with very bizarre names attached. And would send some obnoxious emails through. Luckily its a bit easier to block emails than it is to ban IP's, but I understand to an extent.

GuitarBizarre

I don't think anyone here cares about pearl jam. I know I like them just fine, and would never have a problem with anyones favourite band being PJ. In fact, there are a few huge PJ fans on some other boards I go to.

I think people care about the blanket dismissal of entire genres because of a preconcieved bias, coupled with statements about having diverse tastes, while listing as examples several multiplatinum bands who are some of the most visible in any genre, let alone their own.

It just somewhat smacks of a view of the musical world that isn't exactly all encompassing, you know?

Freebase Dali

Wow, well I hope that we all at least make sure the ship is sinking before we go and jump off it. We've been doing fine with the absence of invested administration. Who knows, maybe this whole recent gagglef*ck is the start of something good, like a change in the way this place is run?

Might be worth it to stick around and see.

Guybrush

Sure, I'm not putting a ship-jumping scheme in motion, but I don't exactly feel like I owe the administration anything. Me and many others like yourself have added real worth to this site by working here for free, banning spammers, by writing guides and making content. You know it's a lot of work. Never once have I seen any appreciation from administration. All I feel like I've seen from them is a fair share of rejection and a lack of interest and respect.

I care about the community. Not the design of this forum or the domain name. If this community moved to a different place, perhaps that would be better for all of us .. except administration who would have a dead site on their hands, but do we really owe them anything?

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GuitarBizarre

I'm not going to go out and register a domain for us to jump to right now, I know that.

But on the other hand, the aforementioned modojo forums...well.

First off, they were segadojo in the late 90s, then they were cloudchaser.com until they had a big server crash in 2001, they ran into money troubles, sold the forums, became xengamers in 2002, then that was sold off to paragon entertainment and became xengen in 2003, which went under and was bought back by patrick, who renamed it Modojo in 2005. We suffered under that name with a lack of interest for the period 2005-2011, then made our mass exodus to cloudchaser just as the modojo site was being sold AGAIN to eurogamer. Right now their website says they're part of industrygamers inc.

And their forum is actually so very dead they've removed all links to it from the main website. 11 years worth of posts and the only people who can read them are spambots with the old forum URL in their lists, because none of the people who made those posts go there anymore.

Alfred

Congratulations!

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Freebase Dali

Well, you kinda say it all right here. We care about the community. It's why we're here. We're not here for the appreciation and respect of the administration. What's more, we can survive pretty well without it... as we have thus far.
I think the important thing that separates us from any other place on the web is this exact value in all of us and how we're still able to carve out a great place on the internet with so little to work with.

I don't feel like we owe anything to MB as a company either, but I do think we're all in a position to extend our finer qualities to a wider audience here at MB. We get new users every day, some good, some bad, because of what this website is and where it stands on the internet. We can choose to abandon that for more control of our site that we don't need in order to maintain what we are, or we can choose to stay with what little that we do have and capitalize on the success of a website that is already in a position to keep our community alive and breathing.