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Guybrush · 03-27-2012, 01:49 PM

It annoys me a bit that I don't feel administration don't really value what they have here. Anyone can have a crappy looking vbulletin forum. That's worth nothing. What's worth something here is us, the active community which keeps this place alive and filled with interesting content. I feel like administration never did anything to nurture our community or show any respect for that fact. So modding some random person without informing even the moderators team well beforehand seems just their style.

GuitarBizarre · 03-27-2012, 01:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Freebase Dali

Where was the outrage when the new management took over and Yac was made our on-site admin? He hadn't posted at all, had no history with the community, etc. Although, he turned out to be a great admin and a likable guy, we don't really have the option as community members and community leaders to dictate what the standards are for upper management's choice of people they decide to send here.

While I certainly wish they had chosen someone with... a bit more tact... it's not for me to assert that they need to adhere to our standards as members of a community they're not even personally a part of. We just have to suck it up and hope this turns out for the best.

1 - I wasn't here when that happened.
2 - If you're being literal, then Yac hadn't posted at all. Which means he hadn't posted 53 times in a manner people found obnoxious, ill-informed and overly aggressive and so we had no reason to think badly of him. When someone's first impression has been terrible, and then they're modded for no discernible reason a week after, and the existing mods don't even know why, then thats a very different thing to someone showing up as a blank slate with a job description and the mods being told they exist and are the new admin. Sure, trepidation in the latter instance is wise, but there's no reason to believe a negative in that situation, before a word has been said. I'm sure if Yac had shown up and been an admin in the style of The Virgin or Captain Caveman, there would have been complaints.

Freebase Dali · 03-27-2012, 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by milano

I suppose that's true. It just seems like a strange coincidence. I could easily be making some false assumptions and I don't want to sound rude whilst making them, but then again, it's still too early to tell.

It does, but it's probably a mathematical certainty that something outrageous is going to happen near April Fool's and not actually be an April Fool's joke. Don't get me wrong, I f*cking hope it is a joke, but it just doesn't seem like the kind of thing the administration would do... and like Tore said, not putting any thought into the kind of person they send over DOES. So to me, the evidence leans more toward the obvious.

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Originally Posted by GuitarBizarre

I wasn't even here for when that happened I don't think. If I was I don't remember it happening.

And also, Yac hadn't posted AT ALL, if you're being literal then thats still a long ways better than saying "Yac had 53 posts of him pissing people off"

I was just addressing the fact that a stranger can be chosen for a position without regard to how we end up feeling about that person, particularly if the administration behind it is really only concerned with their own motives.

Sparky · 03-27-2012, 01:55 PM

yo jayshreddz, bring back flash games and a new XXX section brah

I think this site should refocus on monster trucks & fake tits

Phantom Limb · 03-27-2012, 01:56 PM

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Originally Posted by GuitarBizarre

I wasn't even here for when that happened I don't think. If I was I don't remember it happening.

And also, Yac hadn't posted AT ALL, if you're being literal then thats still a long ways better than saying "Yac had 53 posts of him pissing people off"

So when exactly did Yac ever piss anyone off?

Seems like you're getting angry about something that doesn't even really matter.

Key · 03-27-2012, 02:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Freebase Dali

It does, but it's probably a mathematical certainty that something outrageous is going to happen near April Fool's and not actually be an April Fool's joke. Don't get me wrong, I f*cking hope it is a joke, but it just doesn't seem like the kind of thing the administration would do... and like Tore said, not putting any thought into the kind of person they send over DOES. So to me, the evidence leans more toward the obvious.

I do hope the same, though regardless, if it's a joke or not, I still think it shows a positive view in regards of quality over quantity which has been stated. I also think since Yac posted the thread, it makes it very difficult to see what it is other than him needing some administration help. And if that's the case, we may as well strap ourselves into our safety belts and see what happens.

~~Rubato~~ · 03-27-2012, 02:02 PM

meh, He'd just be another member that happens to have a job to do, If he had a tendency to abuse his power the management wouldn't have put him here in the first place. If true, this is all a big kerfuffle over nothing.

GuitarBizarre · 03-27-2012, 02:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Phantom Limb

So when exactly did Yac ever piss anyone off?

Seems like you're getting angry about something that doesn't even really matter.

Um...that was exactly my point. Yac didn't have 53 posts of him pissing people off. In fact, here is his first searchable interaction with anyone on the forums:

http://www.musicbanter.com/announcem...tml#post359937

As you can see, he was polite, straight to the point, professional would be a good way to describe it.

And then there's Jay's first interaction with the people of this forum:

http://www.musicbanter.com/introduct...hi-im-jay.html

The first two posts are fairly generic, the kind of stuff we'd expect from a lot of people who aren't particularly memorable.

the third post is "so you're saying that most people here have bad taste? because i can agree with this based on some of the threads i have seen so far. "

Which is a direct attack on the forum as a whole. He also said something similar in the shoutbox to a member directly, regards the threads they had made. And his subsequent 50 posts have consisted of gems like "its probably because country sucks. you have to listen to it to truly understand how much it sucks."

Also, you've quoted my post before I finished editing it. I think its clearer what I meant now, if you go back to that one.

Freebase Dali · 03-27-2012, 02:03 PM

I just hope he concerns himself more with the administrative stuff like banning IPs and not posting or handing out infractions...
(not trying to sound like an ass, but we really do need the help with the IP bannings)

Guybrush · 03-27-2012, 02:09 PM

Possibly, getting rid of bots is a tremendously hard task, but I was able to do so quite easily on my own forum by having questions that have to be answered correctly in the registration form.

It's a Canterbury forum so I just used some simple Canterbury-related questions. I figure it should be easy enough to get the same for this forum - just some questions that any musically interested person can answer but which a bot can't. That security function is integrated in phpbb3 (free forum software) so I'm sure it can be added to vbulletin if the functionality is not already there. Perhaps even questions like "what is eleven plus six?" or "what are the 7 first letters of the alphabet?" would be good enough to keep bots from registering.

03-27-2012, 01:49 PM	#81 (permalink)
Guybrush Juicious Maximus III Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Scabb Island Posts: 6,525	It annoys me a bit that I don't feel administration don't really value what they have here. Anyone can have a crappy looking vbulletin forum. That's worth nothing. What's worth something here is us, the active community which keeps this place alive and filled with interesting content. I feel like administration never did anything to nurture our community or show any respect for that fact. So modding some random person without informing even the moderators team well beforehand seems just their style. __________________ Something Completely Different Last edited by Guybrush; 03-27-2012 at 02:02 PM.

03-27-2012, 02:09 PM	#90 (permalink)
Guybrush Juicious Maximus III Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Scabb Island Posts: 6,525	Possibly, getting rid of bots is a tremendously hard task, but I was able to do so quite easily on my own forum by having questions that have to be answered correctly in the registration form. It's a Canterbury forum so I just used some simple Canterbury-related questions. I figure it should be easy enough to get the same for this forum - just some questions that any musically interested person can answer but which a bot can't. That security function is integrated in phpbb3 (free forum software) so I'm sure it can be added to vbulletin if the functionality is not already there. Perhaps even questions like "what is eleven plus six?" or "what are the 7 first letters of the alphabet?" would be good enough to keep bots from registering. __________________ Something Completely Different

03-27-2012, 01:55 PM	#84 (permalink)
Sparky not really Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 5,223	yo jayshreddz, bring back flash games and a new XXX section brah I think this site should refocus on monster trucks & fake tits

03-27-2012, 02:02 PM	#87 (permalink)
~~Rubato~~ Account Disabled Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Ireland Posts: 230	meh, He'd just be another member that happens to have a job to do, If he had a tendency to abuse his power the management wouldn't have put him here in the first place. If true, this is all a big kerfuffle over nothing.

03-27-2012, 02:03 PM	#89 (permalink)
Freebase Dali Partying on the inside Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 5,584	I just hope he concerns himself more with the administrative stuff like banning IPs and not posting or handing out infractions... (not trying to sound like an ass, but we really do need the help with the IP bannings)