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Old 03-27-2012, 02:16 PM   #1 (permalink)
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The captcha we have seems like first-generation or something. I'm pretty sure it isn't a hurdle for bots. Well... obviously it's not.
Really, the only approach we have currently is IP banning, and we're sorting out the ranges they're coming from, but there are A LOT. And it's an all-day affair, every day, 24/7. So eventually, when all of China is IP banned, then we'll have some peace.
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Old 03-27-2012, 02:18 PM   #2 (permalink)
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I think the last thing I want to add here is this:
I personally really love this forum, I love the members and I love their contributions. However, at the end of the day it is only an internet forum, the discussions here are meaningful to the people at the time who read them, and that is what ultimately matters.
If Jayshreddz decides to absolutely trash this place up and drag it down into the doldrums, the best thing to do is to close the tab, go downstairs and open the front door.

I'll also say that I've tried to get people to join here and stay around, and what makes people do that is the fact that what this place offers is of high quality. If this is compromised by jayshreddz, this will have an effect on people staying around, and subsequently alerting the owners that the effect is a bad one.
What we ought to do is to realise that one member cannot ultimately ruin our lives here, we have made many friends and had years of interesting discussions.
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Old 03-27-2012, 02:22 PM   #3 (permalink)
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I think the last thing I want to add here is this:
I personally really love this forum, I love the members and I love their contributions. However, at the end of the day it is only an internet forum, the discussions here are meaningful to the people at the time who read them, and that is what ultimately matters.
If Jayshreddz decides to absolutely trash this place up and drag it down into the doldrums, the best thing to do is to close the tab, go downstairs and open the front door.

I'll also say that I've tried to get people to join here and stay around, and what makes people do that is the fact that what this place offers is of high quality. If this is compromised by jayshreddz, this will have an effect on people staying around, and subsequently alerting the owners that the effect is a bad one.
What we ought to do is to realise that one member cannot ultimately ruin our lives here, we have made many friends and had years of interesting discussions.

If all else fails, there's nothing stopping one of the members here from setting up shop at a new board. I used to post on the Modojo forums.

That forum is now a ghost town because after 11 years of being screwed over by the admins who didn't care, multiple ownership changes, and some terrible website decisions, we upped sticks and moved, wholesale, every member, to www.cloudchaser.us

Its a risk, because offshoot forums tend to rely on a lot of people shifting quickly (we had a previous attempt which died), but it worked.
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Old 03-27-2012, 02:27 PM   #4 (permalink)
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If all else fails, there's nothing stopping one of the members here from setting up shop at a new board. I used to post on the Modojo forums.

That forum is now a ghost town because after 11 years of being screwed over by the admins who didn't care, multiple ownership changes, and some terrible website decisions, we upped sticks and moved, wholesale, every member, to www.cloudchaser.us

Its a risk, because offshoot forums tend to rely on a lot of people shifting quickly (we had a previous attempt which died), but it worked.
I'd happily leave this site for a forum where administration shows it cares about the community. So if the day comes, count me in.
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Old 03-27-2012, 02:34 PM   #5 (permalink)
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I'd happily leave this site for a forum where administration shows it cares about the community. So if the day comes, count me in.
Wow, well I hope that we all at least make sure the ship is sinking before we go and jump off it. We've been doing fine with the absence of invested administration. Who knows, maybe this whole recent gagglef*ck is the start of something good, like a change in the way this place is run?

Might be worth it to stick around and see.
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Old 03-27-2012, 02:41 PM   #6 (permalink)
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Wow, well I hope that we all at least make sure the ship is sinking before we go and jump off it. We've been doing fine with the absence of invested administration. Who knows, maybe this whole recent gagglef*ck is the start of something good, like a change in the way this place is run?

Might be worth it to stick around and see.
Sure, I'm not putting a ship-jumping scheme in motion, but I don't exactly feel like I owe the administration anything. Me and many others like yourself have added real worth to this site by working here for free, banning spammers, by writing guides and making content. You know it's a lot of work. Never once have I seen any appreciation from administration. All I feel like I've seen from them is a fair share of rejection and a lack of interest and respect.

I care about the community. Not the design of this forum or the domain name. If this community moved to a different place, perhaps that would be better for all of us .. except administration who would have a dead site on their hands, but do we really owe them anything?
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Old 03-27-2012, 02:42 PM   #7 (permalink)
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Wow, well I hope that we all at least make sure the ship is sinking before we go and jump off it. We've been doing fine with the absence of invested administration. Who knows, maybe this whole recent gagglef*ck is the start of something good, like a change in the way this place is run?

Might be worth it to stick around and see.
I'm not going to go out and register a domain for us to jump to right now, I know that.

But on the other hand, the aforementioned modojo forums...well.

First off, they were segadojo in the late 90s, then they were cloudchaser.com until they had a big server crash in 2001, they ran into money troubles, sold the forums, became xengamers in 2002, then that was sold off to paragon entertainment and became xengen in 2003, which went under and was bought back by patrick, who renamed it Modojo in 2005. We suffered under that name with a lack of interest for the period 2005-2011, then made our mass exodus to cloudchaser just as the modojo site was being sold AGAIN to eurogamer. Right now their website says they're part of industrygamers inc.

And their forum is actually so very dead they've removed all links to it from the main website. 11 years worth of posts and the only people who can read them are spambots with the old forum URL in their lists, because none of the people who made those posts go there anymore.
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Old 03-27-2012, 02:24 PM   #8 (permalink)
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Maybe people don't feel like staying around because of the immediate bias they get for liking bands like Pearl Jam? Seriously, I've been a member of this forum for three years now and a mod for over two and the reception this individual has received has been appalling.
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Old 03-27-2012, 02:33 PM   #9 (permalink)
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Maybe people don't feel like staying around because of the immediate bias they get for liking bands like Pearl Jam? Seriously, I've been a member of this forum for three years now and a mod for over two and the reception this individual has received has been appalling.
I don't think anyone here cares about pearl jam. I know I like them just fine, and would never have a problem with anyones favourite band being PJ. In fact, there are a few huge PJ fans on some other boards I go to.

I think people care about the blanket dismissal of entire genres because of a preconcieved bias, coupled with statements about having diverse tastes, while listing as examples several multiplatinum bands who are some of the most visible in any genre, let alone their own.

It just somewhat smacks of a view of the musical world that isn't exactly all encompassing, you know?
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Old 03-27-2012, 03:09 PM   #10 (permalink)
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Maybe people don't feel like staying around because of the immediate bias they get for liking bands like Pearl Jam? Seriously, I've been a member of this forum for three years now and a mod for over two and the reception this individual has received has been appalling.
With the greatest respect, my experience was that after what I considered a perfectly reasonable conversation starter in his intro thread ended up with him blanketly dismissing one of my favourite genres as "just awful" and that I "haven't listened to it enough to understand", I felt he was the one who was being objectionable, to treat one of my favourite parts of music with such contempt - dismissing something that means so much to me so coarsely was pretty horrible.

I tried to be polite and reasonable, but it was clearly worth nothing.
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