Are We Welcoming Enough To New People?

Freebase Dali · 04-03-2014, 08:42 PM

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Originally Posted by YorkeDaddy

What you don't realize is that I have accepted that. That's why I mentioned "social context" so many times. Quit making assumptions about my argument without going back and reading my whole argument.

I'm still waiting for your argument to apply to this website...

YorkeDaddy · 04-03-2014, 08:42 PM

I am actually impressed that Freebase just accepted that the word is disparaging in other contexts, something Jans is either incapable of understanding, incapable of admitting, or just plain refusing to say because he's trolling.

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Originally Posted by Freebase Dali

I'm still waiting for your argument to apply to this website...

I'm not arguing about this website, I'm arguing about the word as a whole.

Urban Hat€monger ? · 04-03-2014, 08:43 PM

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Originally Posted by YorkeDaddy

What you don't realize is that I have accepted that. That's why I mentioned "social context" so many times. Quit making assumptions about my argument without going back and reading my whole argument.

Reading War & Peace would take less time.

Burning Down · 04-03-2014, 08:44 PM

Instead of saying "noob" if it's offensive, why not just say "newbie" or "new member"? Simple.

Freebase Dali · 04-03-2014, 08:47 PM

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Originally Posted by YorkeDaddy

I am actually impressed that Freebase just accepted that the word is disparaging in other contexts, something Jans is either incapable of understanding, incapable of admitting, or just plain refusing to say because he's trolling.

I'm not an idiot. I can see how it could be hurtful to actual idiots. I just don't care to entertain idiots here. (Your joke, I see it, those of you who are wondering why I'm replying)

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I'm not arguing about this website, I'm arguing about the word as a whole.

I'm arguing about this website, which is what I have a responsibility to help run. In this context, extraneous data is of no concern to me. Therefore, I don't see a point arguing what you're arguing unless you make it clear that you're arguing in generalities and about the state of internet communities as a whole, which you really haven't done, and have only made this community think you are referring to them, which of course, is totally in my reason enough to tell you everything I've said thus far.

If it's not applicable, your argument is not applicable. Take it where it becomes so. Otherwise, fashion it so that it relates to something we actually care about.

YorkeDaddy · 04-03-2014, 08:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Freebase Dali

I'm not an idiot. I can see how it could be hurtful to actual idiots. I just don't care to entertain idiots here.

So if Jans can't see that it could be hurtful to actual idiots, then that must mean he's a...

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I'm arguing about this website, which is what I have a responsibility to help run. In this context, extraneous data is of no concern to me. Therefore, I don't see a point arguing what you're arguing unless you make it clear that you're arguing in generalities and about the state of internet communities as a whole, which you really haven't done, and have only made this community think you are referring to them, which of course, is totally in my reason enough to tell you everything I've said thus far.

If it's not applicable, your argument is not applicable. Take it where it becomes so. Otherwise, fashion it so that it relates to something we actually care about.

I feel like I've made it clear that I'm arguing in generalities, but if it doesn't come off that way then I apologize. One thing that's a fact is that other people keep bringing this up, which is why this conversation is still going. Not to immaturely point fingers, but I didn't even start this either, I posted an aside about why I dislike the word and that was it. Others jumped on that statement, and I defended why I felt that way by stating that my internet "origins" were on communities where calling someone a noob was a huge insult. Jans refused to believe something like that could ever be the truth, and he continues to do so, and the cycle kept continuing. There's really nowhere else this simple, ridiculous argument could go because my side is literally just fact, and that doesn't even have anything to do with egos or the satisfaction of being proven right because almost everyone else on the internet knows my side is just basic knowledge lol.

Paul Smeenus · 04-03-2014, 08:55 PM

#meltdowninprogres

**Janszoon** · 04-03-2014, 08:55 PM

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Originally Posted by YorkeDaddy

I am actually impressed that Freebase just accepted that the word is disparaging in other contexts, something Jans is either incapable of understanding, incapable of admitting, or just plain refusing to say because he's trolling.

Pretty sure I've never claimed that words can't have different connotations depending on context.

YorkeDaddy · 04-03-2014, 08:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Janszoon

Pretty sure I've never claimed that words can't have different connotations depending on context.

Wow we're finally getting somewhere!!

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Originally Posted by Paul Smeenus

#meltdowninprogres

Meltdown?? Who?! Where?! I wanna read it!

**Janszoon** · 04-03-2014, 08:59 PM

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Originally Posted by YorkeDaddy

Wow we're finally getting somewhere!!

Only in terms of you finally undertsanding what I'm saying.

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Burning Down The Music Guru. Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Beyond the Wall Posts: 4,858	Instead of saying "noob" if it's offensive, why not just say "newbie" or "new member"? Simple.