Are We Welcoming Enough To New People?
 

Why does only one or two people respond to new members when they introduce themselves in the introduction forum?

I personally think that the introductions sub-forum are a great way for new members to assess the mb community and encourages new members in staying active and contributing.

I've seen a ton of new members in the months I've been here and Carpe and Kartofelbri (however it's spelled) were the only people that remained active and posted more than just a few posts after they introduced themselves.

I think that having more people welcome new members is overall good for the site.

If there's one thing you can take away from my rant here: just reply and greet new members, it takes five seconds to do so. Then you can go back to whatever else you were doing.

A lot of profiles are simply spam. If you want to stick around you will.

Also when you are here long enough you will be able to tell which intro posts are people that will stick around or will just make an intro post and never post again.

Also you can tell the spammy ones too.

You're right, I know it sure made me feel good when people actually welcomed me.

So I'm gonna go do that.

What goofle said. Their are so many new accounts welcoming them all would be absurd. The ones that stay will get welcomed if they are a decent member.

You know how many ppl posted in my introduction thread? ONE!

Just Pedestrian.

I sort of... forgot to make an introduction thread when I registered. Made one for jokes a while ago.

Sorry Tom, but "if you want to stick around you will" is roughly nonsense. Not responding to new member posts makes this forum look A) empty and B) unfriendly. If I were signing up today, I'd probably get the sense I wasn't welcome here. I'd wager we've lost out on a number of great personalities because we don't put the effort into anything but squabbling or blowing air up one anothers' asses.

You were the first person who was nice to me and welcomed me. ^_^

You also said i would fit in here but you were lying, it literally took me 3 yrs to sorta fit in around here lol

I think it would be pretty silly to assume that I was implying we shouldn't welcome new members.

I remember our beloved Conan used to welcome many members with genuine intent, not to advertise plug coldly. I will try to make new members welcome myself and if anyone else wants to join me please do. :)

I don't agree with that at all. If people actually wanted to stay around here and discuss music they would regardless of the response to their intro thread. The majority of people that post intro threads just do it and don't post in any other area of the forum and I HIGHLY doubt it's because someone didn't show up to welcome them.

There have been people that post intro threads, get welcomed and only post responses in that intro thread and never post anywhere else.

Why force people to force themselves on others?

I say hi to the people whose intro grabs me. That doesn't mean I won't get to know them later on in their forum tenure, it just means that their intro didn't grab my attention.

Who cares if everyone welcomes them? That would seem a little disingenuous to me. It would seem faked. But the natural progression of people welcoming others, when they see the post, or feel like they want to welcome someone feels like a better fit to me.

Then just,

"Hi everyone my name is Bob"

"Hi Bob!" (REALLY?)

I don't think that's what happens when you post in welcome threads. Their experience here is often down to the response of their joining. If it's not welcoming enough they may leave the forum in annoyance. It doesn't take that much effort to say hello, see what music they like (isn't that the point?) and have a discussion? Personally I see no negative reasons not to welcome new members.

There's nothing wrong with a nice welcome message, but lets not be naive here - there's at least ten times the amount of spam profiles on the introductions page than there are genuine people who want to be part of the site.

I would hazard a guess that of those who genuinely wanted to part of the site, the vast majority participated in whatever way they chose to regardless of how many replies their initial introduction thread received.

Me either love. I just don't personally welcome all of them because I don't necessarily have **** to say to every new person that walks in. Not saying I won't get to know them, because I more then likely will. I am just shy, and that's not my style. Nothing wrong whoever wants to do it doing it. But thinking everyone should do it. Come on, now if someone isn't comfortable, how are we gonna ask them to do that, just to make someone else comfortable? That's my just my opinion though.

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Im all for welcoming new members but it's not something i do often.

I do think it's important at least 1 person welcomes you and acknowledges your presence here cause it's hard to mingle with old members here if you're a noob.

It's sorta like starting in a new school not knowing anybody, all you need is 1 person to show you around and after that it's easier to mingle with the regulars.

Yip that's totally fine my love, you don't have to do everyone, just welcome people that you find interesting (who maybe put more effort into looking and posting around MB). You were so cute in your video, I think shyness is quite refreshing but aside from that I feel you are rather confident on MB. In person it would be another story (for all of us!).

The confidence comes once I know you. In irl, though I am just like I am on Mb for the most part. I just have to warm up to you that's all
With video though a lot of my vulnerability comes out, I think because I am talking to a screen that is not answering back lol, and instead of nervous I feel exposed.

Personally, I don't think new members should let not getting a lot of responses to their introduction thread get to them or take it as a sign of apathy from the general MB community. My intro thread only got a response from one person, but I realised that didn't necessarily mean that I wasn't welcome, just that no one knew anything about me and that I could be a spammer or a person that only posted once and then left for all anyone knew.
In my opinion, if you are a new member you should first prove that you are here to do what the site is meant for, and then you will be deserving of welcoming and people will probably also be welcoming towards you.
Of course I see nothing wrong with welcoming new members in their intro threads; on the contrary, it's great! But new members shouldn't take it for granted.

edit: Whoa there's been a lot of new posts since I started writing this, how do you guys type so fast, lol

I completely understand that, I am a little too confident sometimes and it can come off as arrogant.

You know for a noob, you had the mentality of a regular. i didn't thought that at all, i just thought i didn't woo ppl enough.

I'm glad to see people legitimately thinking about this!

Just a few things I might add...


For the record, I didn't make an introduction thread, I just started posting.

I eventually made an intro thread for no other reason than to explain my music interests.

I think you are over exaggerating just a tad.

Like I said, it only takes a few seconds, and most new members aren't going to be thinking "Well I wonder if this person is saying hi just to say that he or she did," They'll be instead thinking, "Hey, that person welcomed me! He or she was nice to do that."

That's at least how I see it.

There are twenty garbage-posting spammers, at least, for every real human legitimate potential new member

I done told you and I told you. When I say leave me be it means don't quote me trying to entice me to respond to you. This is the last time I will say this.

LEAVE ME BE. Really, I know you are trying to get me to respond to you in some type of way, because if you kept reading you, you would have realized what I meant by that.

If you don't leave me the **** alone, we are going to have a serious problem.

Put him on ignore Roxy if you feel like he is upsetting you that badly.

It's not that he upsets me badly, it's that he baits and enjoys rubbing me the wrong way. I dunno why else someone would keep ****ing with you after you tell them to step off. REPEATEDLY.

I am absolutely not trying to instigate something with you.

And I actually do see what you're talking about and I did not mean to single you out at all, your post was the only thing I wanted to reply to. That was not my intention and I apologize if it appeared that way.


Having said that, you need to chill out.

Look, I like to have intense discussions with people and I may at times appear to attack you personally, but that is NOT my intention to do so. I'm just very, very competitive.

What I don't understand is why you now are dismissing all of my posts as some attempt to rile or provoke you.

Did you even read my last post? I can't even begin to fathom what you saw in it that made you think I was attacking you, other than the statement that I think you are over exaggerating–but I literally don't know how to make that statement any less severe than it is.

If I had said "I think you're ****ing over exaggerating and you don't know what hell you're talking about." THEN it makes sense to assume I'm attacking you, but I never said anything like that.

Bro, I don't really enjoy your posts, I don't enjoy the things you say you come across like an arrogant prick. I have told you separately 3 times to leave me alone, in three separate threads no less, for way less then this. You are the first poster to ever ever make me have to say that. I don't care what you think, I don't care what you have to say. It's very simple, you do you. Imma do me and neither the ****ing two shall meet.

But if you keep trying to talk to me, and trying to have discussions with me that I don't want to have with you, then you come across like an aggressive, pirckish trollish poster. Just ****in leave me alone already ****!

roxy.... you just responded to a topic he brought up, then got mad that he responded back with a totally fine response. i think itd be best for u to lighten up or just ignore him


as for the actual issue or question. sometimes rarely i will welcome a n00b. the ones who stay are usually ones who have been part of forums before. they understand 'forum culture' or whatevs. ive been on message boards for like 12ish yrs and most others here have too. over time ya just see so so so many n00bs who never stick around so it just feels so much like an energy waste to welcome n00bs cause so few stay anyways

Actually doll, I was responding to Vanilla and Pedestrian more then anything.

I am ticked because out of all the responses he chose to repeatedly go after me. I can make an ambiguous post, in response to a topic no need to single me out to respond to when other people have said what I said and what I didn't say and did more eloquently then I did. He just wants to have his discussion with me, and I don't want to have it with him.

point was you were respondin to a topic he brought up and he said nothin remotely out of line. so just put him on ignore if its that big of a deal to you. sorry it reminds me of smeenus and me where if i say basically anythin even hintin towards anything hes ever said he will start gettin all angry lol. i think itd be best for u to put wpn on ignore. im just steppin in with my pointless thoughts cause i know how things work here. mob mentality gets outta hand pretty quick

I don't post in welcome threads but always make an effort to welcome new posters and get them talking if they post in other areas of the site.

Problem is if they are spam accounts their posts get deleted so you end up looking like you're talking to yourself which is a bit :o:.

I'm glad that you said this.

Up until now, I had the impression that you just didn't want to discuss anything with people that disagreed with you.

You are of course fine to say that you don't like me (and I add that I don't understand your reasoning for believing so), but what I really don't understand is why you get mad at me for simply replying to what you said; this is a public forum after all, and granted that I'm still allowed to post here I will continue to reply to anyone I want to have a discussion with.

If you have a problem then just ignore me.

I'll say it again, I personally don't have a problem with you as a person.

There's more ways to look at my posts than assuming I'm arrogant and I dislike you (which I don't).

Try looking at it like this: I think you are one of the more intelligent people on here, and your responses are very well-thought-out and I like that. I therefore like to have discussions with you more than other people. Also, I don't find anything wrong with your music interests which is also a factor.

That's easily determined. Just look at their other posts and if they're all less than 2 sentences or just making generic comments chances are they probably are spammers.

We have some great threads on MB:

http://www.musicbanter.com/electroni...oobie-out.html
http://www.musicbanter.com/electroni...usic-acts.html

I see that all the time here. They get their 15 posts and then BAMF! Sir Spamsalot strikes again.

It's just common courtesy to welcome people into a place that one calls 'home'. I'll usually wait and see what they're here for first, and if they seem legit, I'll give em a welcome, and (try to) see where their music tastes are at. 90% of the time, I'm wasting my breath though. Using a little common sense, and having at least a drop of sincerity is really all it takes.

pfft, understatement OF THE YEAR!! >_<

I was quickly labeled a rapist by that mob, it's misunderstanding and word twisting at it's finest

ATTACK AS A PACK! KILL THE BABY!!

MB is very much like the animal kingdom, only the strong survive.

I never said you disliked me. I said I dislike your posts.

See unfortunately for myself I am 99% sugar. And it's all in how you approach me. If you had come at me in a way that showed that you actually were interested in discussing things with me, this wouldn't have ever been an issue. In stead you came at me in this way "Blah blah blah I just wanna argue cause I ain't got **** to do except jerk off in this sock blah blah blah..."

The internet has a way of muddling up peoples meanings, which is why I take the time I do in responding to people. Because it's almost never that I don't like the person, it's that I don't like what they said.

Most of you all thought I was yelling just now and mad. No, it was simply a firm statement. Leave me alone. That's it. Read it for what it was. A simple factual statement.

Now, if you would like to try getting off on a better foot with me WPN,

Find me in another area of discussion, and don't jump in with **** like
You are creepy because you keep your ex bfs shirts, fat people disgust me, and my personal favorite, murdering children because of depression, and you might find I might respond to you in a way that is less get. the. ****. out. of. my. face. and more tell me your thoughts on that.

In order to effectively debate you engage, not insult. And because of poor manners, and complete and utter willingness to stop pestering me. I marked you as a troll. I am not adverse to my opinion of you being swayed not at all. I just have to see that that is actually what you are after.

If there is one thing I don't like it's people who try and blow sunshine up the dark-side of my moon. Now we are square.