Originally Posted by jwb (Post 2189785)

Imagine if you could transition within the course of 5 mins and then just transition back when you feel like it... Is there anyone here who wouldnt try taking a test drive as the opposite sex?

Originally Posted by Marie Monday (Post 2189810)

Also what Frown points out about CRISPR etc. relates to what I'm nitpicking about: it's considering the issues and trauma that many trans people face as all being an inherent biological condition/state of confusion that needs treatment, and focus on these kind of biological treaments to easily erase all of those issues. It neglects how much of those issues are not a biological condition but due to society being ****ed up

Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 2189821)

Ant's like: "I just post into the ether with conveniently disruptive contrarianism in conversations before spending a great deal of time explaining the details of what I'm saying. What even are words? Words can't fully carry the weight of thought, cannot define a man to his core. What kind of ridiculous notion is it to say that words said in a way that consistently sends a particular message can have meaning when meaning is purely in the mind? Does human action not occur within the plane of what we experience? And if we cannot be allowed to experience all possibilities of what can occur in that plane, are we not robbed of our freedoms in a way that destroys the possibility for the mind to emerge? Surely you do not want to completely eliminate the human capability for thought, no?"

And he probably expects everyone to say: "wow no I want humans to think. Here's a lot of reasons why" then dance away from the starting point of the conversation like it never happened.

But instead everyone's like: nah bro you're still transphobic because of what you said lol

Originally Posted by The Batlord (Post 2189827)

Crypto fascists talking about genetics being the final solution to the trans question sure makes me feel comfortable.

Originally Posted by jwb (Post 2189824)

It doesn't necessarily have to be a biological condition, It seems psychological to me.

If you were gonna make specific claims like it's a genetic defect etc then that would be a strictly biological claim that would need to be substantiated using biology. But i see that as sorta irrelevant to the broader conversation anyway cause let's say it's caused by genetics or by hormones in the womb etc. Unless you had a way to somehow prevent that from happening before it did, that doesn't change anything.

Originally Posted by The Batlord (Post 2189827)

Crypto fascists talking about genetics being the final solution to the trans question sure makes me feel comfortable.

Originally Posted by Anteater (Post 2189828)

A certain somebody who tried to strawman me over the word "condition" doesn't strike me as particularly clever here.

Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 2189830)

Damn you owned me so hard that I almost forgot that you called trans people genetically inferior.

Originally Posted by Anteater (Post 2189831)

I called myself genetically inferior actually if you really want to be a big crybaby about it.