If You Want To Know Why The Spill Your Guts Thread Was Closed Read On
 

I have closed it permanently this time and I make no apologies for it.

Now you can bitch and whine about it or make jokes at my expense about how I always close everything I really don't care. But there are one or two things you need to know.

We are just one of many forums owned by the same company. These other forums are much more strictly moderated than we are. We've been left alone to our own devices for the simple reason we've moderated ourselves without them having to step in and tell us what to do.

The way the Lounge has been going the past year is going to jeopardise that trust if things get any worse and people cannot moderate themselves sufficiently. Does every thread really have to be filled with childish insults and 20 pages of off topic garbage? You have the shoutbox, you have chatrooms use those. Even the Lounge used to have some standards at one time.

This is the first warning we have had from the owners to get ourselves in order. Just go and look at the last few pages of the Spill Your Guts thread and read the rubbish in it. And if any of the people who posted in that thread are proud of it you should leave because you're not wanted here. You really have reached a new forum low.

Do something about it yourself before making someone else do it for you.

This is the best thing anybody has ever done on this forum as of late.

I completely agree. I didn't post but watched with growing annoyance and disbelief the kind of stupid, schoolyard crap being posted and to be honest, I just expected you to walk in and close it again. But it being permanently closed is a good idea, as it had ceased long ago to serve the function for which it was created.

We're not stupid kids here. I've certainly been guilty of a childish outburst or two myself, I will put my hand up to that and try to be a bit more mature in future. Which is not to say, I believe I am right in saying, that we all have to be po-faced and nicey-nicey with each other. The site is called Music Banter after all. But some of the topics created recently and some of the comments posted have been beneath contempt.

Let's look on this as the shape of things to come if we don't get ourselves in order. We don't have a god-given right to this forum and it could be closed like that. Let's all try to learn from this.

.....? You were a major contributor to the problem, why are you acting all stoic like "I am above these people, this needed to happen to teach them a lesson"

I admit it, yeah, i was involved. I answered questions and tried to stop things from escalating. Did I say I wasn't part of the problem? No.
Am I happy the problem is resolved? Of course. That thread was a ****fest ever since the Freebase/Vanilla debate went out of control.

Please feel free to continue to make accusations toward me with no evidence, I love it.

What exactly was the issue? Dumb posts or antagonistic ones? Cause the whole concept of the thread was pretty much about being confrontational. I don't imagine the owners would be that concerned with just off-topic stupidity.

Now hold up.I said this in SyG and Ill say it here.The bar has greatly dropped.And nobody seems to care.Users.You guys are what makes the place.And right now it feels like over the hill banter. Or teenage bull**** banter.Im all for lounge topics,games and jokes but use your head a little quality control.

I suspect Bats it is things like is it ok to screw animals.Debates on the word ***---.And page after page of pointless YouTube videos.

There seems to be this thought that because something is posted in the lounge it can be made fun of, not taken seriously, filled with stupid gifs, childish insults or be derailed almost by default.
That isn't the case, like I said there still has to be some standards even in the lounge.

It's got to the point where the line has been crossed as to what's acceptable, for any of it. I'm not asking people to stop completely I'm just asking them to filter themselves and try to at least hold themselves to some kind of standard and not fill every thread in there with the same childish crap day in day out.

Somehow you've taken the forums closeness and turned it into a bad thing. Outside of a few particular instances everyone active in the lounge can be viewed as a giant click with characters that are expected to play certain roles. This is human nature, get over it. Unless we are attacking new members or people are leaving because of it I don't see a problem. This is a music site, if you come here and don't like the lounge section who gives a fuck? The threads in the music section are solid and the journals are way better than than the majority of other sites I looked into before joining here.

On another note, if your getting shit from the higher ups, I get it, do what you have to do as mods.

Dude hes not knocking the bond ppl have.You cant say giff after giff or junk youtube posts are you bonding.Thats bull **** bro.Nonsensical topics,**** that gets derailed forever and a day and pointless arguments is what hes talking about. And if your are bonding with yer ppl I get that but use the ****ing pm box.

Who said anything about bonding? People don't post this stuff to get to know one another, they post it because they are comfortable not feeling like an outsider. If you don't like a topic don't read it, and if you don't like a conversation don't join in.

I post on way stricter forums than this, it's not an issue if the place tightens up a bit. I'm just sayin don't shit on us for innocent jokes because the higher ups dont approve or you don't find humor it them. I don't feel bad about enjoying the company and friendly joking with the other members I interact with.

Gimmie modship so I can lock all the threads about music I don't like.

**that's a generalized "you" not directed at you Roxy**

Hes not ****ting on you tho.At all.He's saying have some decorum,intelligence and dare I ****ing say it a bit of ****ibg class.Other ppl see this place and they have the power to shut us down.All he is doing is what needs to be ****ing done so maybe just maybe,the quality of the forum goes up.Cleaning house and taking inventory of the site as a whole and of his posts as well.

Innocent jokes =\= pointless drivel

The whole point of this thread is so I don't have to do that to people. I don't get enjoyment from doing it.

I get it Rox, I acknowledged that in my first response about doing what they have to do as mods. I'm just saying in the past I feel like threads have been locked simply because they left a distaste in certain peoples' mouths and not because they were violating any sort of conduct rules that would bring attention from the site owners.

Also, as far as forum etiquette goes, I think Lil's post about helping Mondo was way more inappropriate than anything I've seen here in a while and no one really seemed to care. Everyone has their own opinion on this stuff, they either need to lay out some guidelines, not mod on the fly.

Despite what you might think it didn't go unnoticed, and again this is one of the sorts of posts I'm talking about.
You say moderating isn't being done, well this is what this thread is for. I'm letting people know this stuff is being noticed more and more and it is unacceptable and it needs to be cut out.

I never accused you of not moderating. We've had this discussion when I first called you out for thread locking. You don't have to justify your decisions to me, I've modded before I understand the kind of position you can be put into. I was just posting my honest opinion about the matter.

Also, I said no one seemed to care, not that nothing was done. I try not to make claims that I don't have facts to back up, but the thread isn't locked and a mod never posted in it, so if something was done it must have been behind the scenes.. aka seemingly no one cared.

Edit: Like I said, if it's becoming an issue and we are attracting attention then maybe it's time to lay out some guidelines.

The irony of a nearly incoherent, garbage rant like this telling people to post with intelligence and class. Pitiful.

The real problem here is that there's like ten members here that are a complete waste of space and the forum was way better before they became regulars.

Inappropriate no.Kind heartedly misguided yes.That thread was way less inappropriate compared to some as of late.Music Banter Restraint Test comes to mind.Mondo is a valued member of this community. And Lil wanting and willingness to help is behavior I aspire to have.Thats the type of bond this place can create and its beautiful a crowd full of diverse misfits from all walks of life that bond and talk ****,but bond and talk **** in a manner worthy of housing some of the friendships that have been formed here.

Bro.Shut up.You can be a real bean curd.My phone is broken and I text as best I can through the crack in the screen.Go fly a kite for a while would ya.

Since a thread of mine has been specifically mentioned I'd like to point out that I started it at 10:40 AM and requested that the mods kill it about an hour later at 11:43 AM.

And I've mentioned several times since - I screwed up. I apologize.

(with all of the crap that goes on around here it's a bit weird that a thread started 3 months ago that stayed open such a short period of time gets singled out)

Despite what anybody says this isn't a case of singling out threads. It's about having some kind of standards for all of them.

Is it really necessary to call someone gay 6 times a day in 6 different threads. And I was paraphrasing there BTW.

FYI, the SYG thread is still open.

A thread about a ****fest turning into a ****fest. Gotta love this site man.

Care to place a wager on how long it takes until this thread gets shut down for the same reasons? :laughing:

I have been a member here for only a short while. I don't login and contribute often but I do read most of the music threads - some of them are really good. However, I don't join in on the other threads much because of the utter sh*te that's posted. I scratch my head and wonder just how old the posters are. This forum is very cliquey too. It's about time somebody had the guts to do something about the tripe that's posted here.

I think that's pretty unfair. You don't exactly make huge meaningful contributions yourself so I don't see how/why you would be able to make a statement like that. I also can't think of who you mean; nobody here has given me that sort of impression, apart from the odd ill-advised post and we all make them from time to time.

Also, leave my girl alone! :ar_15s:
Like I said in the thread, inappropriate if he wasn't asked about it, consulted about it or, if you like, warned about it beforehand. I feel it could have come across as (even unintentionally) quite condescending and embarrassing. Just what I think though. Nice sentiment, possibly approached the wrong way?

It's open but now it's moderated, so people can't just say what they like. Every post has to be approved, like a journal entry. What I said should have been done a while ago.

This thread is now officially ironic.

Well done. That thread was abysmal.

roxy wilin on her obamaphone

alright i'm done lol

I don't rarely find anything in that thread offensive, it's just offensively dull. It's been a slog to read lately. While consistently getting way more attention than any of the other threads on the site.

Sorry? Sometimes when you think about posting, don't.

:rofl:

don't worry, you guys have whined me into submission. i'll leave you alone now and let you go back to discussing disc golf and the nuances of transgender teminology or whatever it was

That's not my impression of this place at all. You make it sound like MB is the school cafeteria, where everyone sits in their little cliques and circles, throwing insults at each other. In reality, MB is more like a classroom, where all of the students despite their backgrounds are united in common turmoil. :yeah:

Alright, in all seriousness, I've never seen a serious fight/rivalry last more than a few minutes around here, and everyone always apologizes afterwards. If the owners want to clean the place up, that's really all there is to it, however I still feel like I should say that I don't know why everyone is so quick to talk about how MB is "degenerating". Everyone I've met so far has been insanely nice, even when we've had disagreements. The music forums still have great and serious discussions, and the lounge is a fantastic way to get to know everyone better. Also, Plug isn't as empty as it was when I first joined, which is awesome!

Was the SYG thread a haven for intellectual discussion? Hell no. But I talked more with everyone on MB in that one thread than I did in all of the other threads and sub-forums combined, and I learned a whole lot about them that I otherwise would have missed. Being able to cut loose and just spill about whatever was a great release, and the confrontational nature of it kind of forced me into interacting with people that I initially avoided. But the thing is, when I actually did interact with those people, I ended up liking and respecting them. So the SYG had it's issues, and I can understand why it's being locked down, but I feel like at least one person should come out and admit that it wasn't entirely some abomination of pure evil.

Am I a bad poster?

I know I am I'm sorry I just got a computer yesterday though so I promise I'll make a journal I'm sorry.

I've been finding it difficult to post in now playing threads for awhile now simply because I listen to a lot of music every day and posting one thing seems pointless/unfair, while posting all of it seems annoying.

No.. you're a:

You have a journal haven't you? You should get back to it: it was pretty bitchin' (Copyright Batlord Enterprises MMXIII - MMXV)