Changes to Rule Enforcement

Key · 06-03-2015, 11:29 PM

^From my perspective, it shouldn't even be a rule. Who cares if a few members go off topic for a few minutes in a thread. That's not something that needs to be infracted, otherwise you're basically just giving people a reason not to want to post with their friends which in turn will bring the amount of posts per day way down, and a lot of the enjoyment at this forum would be gone.

Guybrush · 06-04-2015, 12:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Ki

^From my perspective, it shouldn't even be a rule. Who cares if a few members go off topic for a few minutes in a thread. That's not something that needs to be infracted, otherwise you're basically just giving people a reason not to want to post with their friends which in turn will bring the amount of posts per day way down, and a lot of the enjoyment at this forum would be gone.

And how would you feel about a policy that enforces rules for all members equally and consistently if the short nonsense rule was eradicated?

Key · 06-04-2015, 12:29 AM

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Originally Posted by tore

And how would you feel about a policy that enforces rules for all members equally and consistently if the short nonsense rule was eradicated?

I don't really think much of it when the rules as they stand seem to be doing a good job at keeping this place as civil as it is. The mods do the dirty work behind the scenes when it comes to drama and posts that really don't serve much purpose to a thread but at the end of the day, people are always going to go off topic in threads that it doesn't belong in. It's human nature. Nothing you can do about it. I don't really see a need to change anything about it. It's like changing something good to hopefully have it be better, but only to find that the better is actually worse.

RoxyRollah · 06-04-2015, 12:36 AM

I think the only deep seeded issusse that we a forum should make an effort to be nicer to eachother .Not talking about horsing around. But like when **** gets real,and we if we can do that we are on the right track.

Neapolitan · 06-04-2015, 02:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Frownland

I don't even know anymore tbh. She could have tumblritis, which is what it sounds like, but it could easily just be one of Urban's sock puppet accounts where he's just ****ing with us.

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Originally Posted by LoathsomePete

Yeah I always just assumed she graduated from the Tumblr school of arguing.

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Originally Posted by Soulflower

But your suppose to be a MOD though talking like this?

First rule in cleaning this place up is getting rid of you off the team.

RoxyRollah · 06-04-2015, 04:55 AM

@ neo dude this isn't the thread to giff. Makes you look like you can't police yourself. Just sayin.

**Janszoon** · 06-04-2015, 05:03 AM

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Originally Posted by tore

Could I get some comments on this? Or are you giving me the silent agreement treatment?

I'm pretty sure I answered this question long ago in this thread, but my answer is that I don't have the same all or nothing perspective on the rules that you do. Yes, I believe that that short/nonsense rule should exist but no I don't believe it should be enforced on every individual instance of a short/nonsense post. It exists because we need a way of addressing the issue of people who have a pattern of posting nonsense constantly, but people doing it occasionally isn't an issue. It's like a city having a noise ordinance on the books. It would be absurd, even detrimental the culture of the city, to have the cops show up every time someone has a party, but you need the rule on the books for people who do it so often that becomes a nuisance.

Trollheart · 06-04-2015, 05:27 AM

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Originally Posted by tore

Could I get some comments on this? Or are you giving me the silent agreement treatment?

I too gave my views: perspective and context man. Jansz's use of the smiley and my shycouch, to say nothing of Batty's flowers and dynamite, sorry, candle, are examples of when a one-word/smiley post can be used without derailing the thread and can actually add something to it, if you know the person and what they're trying to say.

I've no issue with "lol" or "wtf" posts, in fact I've no issue with any posts other than spam or openly (openly, not jokingly) offensive posts. "You're a prick" said to someone who knows how it take it is fine. "You're a prick" said to a new member, or someone who can't take a joke or doesn't understand it, is not, and the member posting should be able to make the distinction. F'r instance, there are plenty of people to whom I could post "oh just **** off will you, you know that's not what I mean", and they would not get offended by use of the expletive. But there are some who would get offended, even report me, so to those people I would respond differently.

As I said already, one size does not fit all and a one-word or even nonsense post can be very acceptable in any thread, as can gifs or YouTubes, as long as their intent is understood.

You know my position with the rest of your rules, so I won't repeat myself.

Psy-Fi · 06-04-2015, 05:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Neapolitan

I was thinking the exact same thing.

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"I pictured to myself the Queen of Hearts as a sort of embodiment of ungovernable passion – a blind and aimless Fury."

- Lewis Carroll

Guybrush · 06-04-2015, 06:18 AM

Trollheart, I think you may be missing something. Did you see the question I asked Ki?

The short posts rule is not actually part of my proposition. I'm not against it, but it's not "my" rule.

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Originally Posted by Janszoon

I'm pretty sure I answered this question long ago in this thread, but my answer is that I don't have the same all or nothing perspective on the rules that you do. Yes, I believe that that short/nonsense rule should exist but no I don't believe it should be enforced on every individual instance of a short/nonsense post. It exists because we need a way of addressing the issue of people who have a pattern of posting nonsense constantly, but people doing it occasionally isn't an issue. It's like a city having a noise ordinance on the books. It would be absurd, even detrimental the culture of the city, to have the cops show up every time someone has a party, but you need the rule on the books for people who do it so often that becomes a nuisance.

Hehe, I don't think we see things that differently. The boldened part of your quote is sorta what the proposed system does.

It's not dangerous to get infractions as long as you don't get too many. In other words, you could post nonsense posts now and then. But if you have a "pattern of posting nonsense constantly", you'd get tempbanned.

People insist on taking offense to any infractions at all, but as I've mentioned before, one could instead see it as a measure of freedom. If you've got 8 infractions, you don't have as much freedom and should wait a bit before posting more nonsense. If you have 0 infractions, you can post more nonsense. Just play it smart and try to keep up with the score.

If mods wanted to be more lenient than my initial proposition, you could say breaking the short post rule gives you 1 infraction for 1 week. Then you could break the rule 9 times in a week without real repercussions.

06-03-2015, 11:29 PM	#361 (permalink)
Key . Join Date: Dec 2010 Posts: 13,153	^From my perspective, it shouldn't even be a rule. Who cares if a few members go off topic for a few minutes in a thread. That's not something that needs to be infracted, otherwise you're basically just giving people a reason not to want to post with their friends which in turn will bring the amount of posts per day way down, and a lot of the enjoyment at this forum would be gone.