Can we unlock the Trump thread please?

[bulbasaur]

Remember that time I proved it was harder to immigrate to Canada than it is to the USA and all elph did was call me an idiot the whole time? Pepperidge Farm remembers.™

[Neapolitan]

Remember that time I proved that Canada has funnier comedians than the USA and all elph did was call me an idiot the whole time? Pepperidge Farm remembers.™

[Lucem Ferre]

Originally Posted by elphenor

Canada is literally in the running for easiest developed country to legally migrate to

So then you moved the goalposts to undocumented migration to which I said here's a map the Canada US border that **** is ginormous

To which then you switch to saying it'd be harder to not get deported and you source a pro refugee sites stat about deportations as a result of refugee status being declined so not exactly relevant even with the unverfiable numbers

Canada hardly tracks undocumented immigration to begin with its only relatively recently that it was made a crime at all and they still won't deport you until after your several month appeal process where you can stay in Canada

You're full of ****.

You said of all developed countries Canada has a reputation for being easy to migrate to. THAT DOES NOT MEAN IT'S EASIER TO MIGRATE THERE THAN TO THE USA. For ****s sake. Then, you're whole thing on that was how easy it was to fill out a form. In which case actual Canadians had to tell you that that doesn't mean you will be accepted. Which should be common sense. It stopped there on that point. I won and you just called me an idiot.

Then we move to illegal immigration. Which there are no facts on how easy it is to hop the Canadian border especially since there is no demand to illegally migrate to Canada. But I did point out how well they deport people. Which, I think we can all agree that you haven't really migrated ANYWHERE if you are getting kicked out before you can settle down. So I won with the available facts we have there, while you just called me an idiot.

I NEVER moved a goal post the conversation switched. I maintained the point that Canada is harder to immigrate to than the USA. It always had been. And I won, and you just called me an idiot the whole time. Oh, and then YOU moved the conversation to something I didn't know **** about and I admit it and like a pretentious child who can't admit defeat you took me admitting I don't know **** about a topic to mean I don't know **** at all.

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[djchameleon]

Originally Posted by Lucem Ferre

You said of all developed countries Canada has a reputation for being easy to migrate to. THAT DOES NOT MEAN IT'S EASIER TO MIGRATE THERE THAN TO THE USA. For ****s sake.

Well if this bill gets passed and turned into a law which it isn't looking to be a favorable bill. IF it does get passed then it increases even more how hard it is to get a visa to come to the states.

RAISE Act: Would Donald Trump Let You Immigrate to America? | Time.com

Take the lovely quiz in that link and see if you would be able to come here if you were an immigrant.

[Lucem Ferre]

Originally Posted by djchameleon

Well if this bill gets passed and turned into a law which it isn't looking to be a favorable bill. IF it does get passed then it increases even more how hard it is to get a visa to come to the states.

RAISE Act: Would Donald Trump Let You Immigrate to America? | Time.com

Take the lovely quiz in that link and see if you would be able to come here if you were an immigrant.

I probably wouldn't be able to now. **** me I'm not learning all the Presidents. I hardly know the actual states.

[djchameleon]

Originally Posted by Lucem Ferre

I probably wouldn't be able to now. **** me I'm not learning all the Presidents. I hardly know the actual states.

The quiz is based off of education level completed, your age, if you have a job offer for a certain salary. The salary cap was like 77k. So if you end up finding a job that pays 76k a year it doesn't help you get aany points to reach the 30 point mark.

[Lucem Ferre]

Originally Posted by elphenor

It's far easier to get accepted into Canada mate, they actively beg people to come, why are you so nutso about this

Yes you can have your form denied (obviously), but I'd likely be accepted on a student visa that was my point

The people they are supposedly better at deporting were the wave of Syrian refugees that the US barely let in at all, that then for one reason or another had their refugee status declined

1st is not a point.

2nd that happens a lot here in the USA. From what I understand. But other than that from what I remember the requirements to move to Canada is a lot stricter than the USA.

3rd, there is very little information or stats that are reliable enough to say if it's easier or not to illegally immigrate so it's pointless to discuss. Syrians being rejected had more to do with the muslimphobia being spread across our country.

Why I'm nutso about this? Because I was showing that there are valid reasons why people want stricter immigration laws. To dismiss it does nothing. You have to understand the dissenting opinions if you want to change them. You're whole response was to call me an idiot for claiming something you didn't agree with rather than show proof. If you actually cared about any politics you would want to educate people when they don't know rather than build a resentment by insulting them over and over again. Or even having a civil discussion about it YOU could learn something you didn't know. But if you want to cop out and say "It's not my job to teach people" or continue calling people idiots over a disagreement, or misunderstanding then you really don't care and are nothing but a fraud masquerading as somebody who is passionate about it. Which is disappointing because we both know you're not an idiot.

[djchameleon]

Lucem do you know the strict requirements to move to Canada?

[Lucem Ferre]

Originally Posted by djchameleon

Lucem do you know the strict requirements to move to Canada?

I did but I forgot them. Something like, you need to have a certain amount of money, you need to have a certain skill set, things like that.

[Frownland]

Originally Posted by djchameleon

Lucem do you know the strict requirements to move to Canada?

If you were an American citizen? You would have to be thin enough to fit between the gaps at the main entryways, which would deter most Americans. If you wanted to avoid that, you'd also have to hike through a bunch of untraversed territory, which would be a massive obstacle for any of those Americans who couldn't make it through the doorway to begin with.

It's no wonder that DJ thinks it's really rough to migrate to Canada.