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BastardofYoung 05-10-2011 07:10 PM

also. if you like stuff like this. track down both of these CD's:

http://www.freewebs.com/teejo/discova/28keyzcd.jpg
Songs in the Key of Z: The Curious Universe of Outsider Music by Various Artists : Reviews and Ratings - Rate Your Music
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Songs in the Key of Z: Vol. 2 by Various Artists : Reviews and Ratings - Rate Your Music

Ska Lagos Jew Sun Ra 05-11-2011 12:20 PM

Actually almost done listening to the Shaggs's 'Philosophy of the world'. Strangely, Thinking this must have had a massive impact on J-pop, and Japanese music. Some reason it reminds me so much more of Japanese music than American.

starrynight 05-11-2011 02:49 PM

Japanese pop music I've always thought has been extremely influenced by American pop music, 60s pop music and later West Coast style among them. Experimental music or more punk experimental if we call it that may have been influenced by someone like The Shaggs I suppose.

Ska Lagos Jew Sun Ra 05-11-2011 06:06 PM

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Originally Posted by starrynight (Post 1052049)
Japanese pop music I've always thought has been extremely influenced by American pop music, 60s pop music and later West Coast style among them. Experimental music or more punk experimental if we call it that may have been influenced by someone like The Shaggs I suppose.

I'm not saying it's direct, for some reason I just notice similarities in the bizarrely rhythm dissonant female vocals. Could be entirely coincidence, or influence of influence. I mean Japanese popular music in general, and how they deliver vocals.

starrynight 05-12-2011 03:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Skaligojurah (Post 1052149)
I mean Japanese popular music in general, and how they deliver vocals.

But I think most of Japanese popular music has been in the idol genre. Western rock critics tend to ignore that music.

Ska Lagos Jew Sun Ra 05-12-2011 07:39 AM

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Originally Posted by starrynight (Post 1052261)
But I think most of Japanese popular music has been in the idol genre. Western rock critics tend to ignore that music.

Sadly, American Rock outfits do. But Japanese Rock outfits do not ignore American Rock outfits, or the outfits of the world. Which I suppose is the reason for their imo much superior output for the past two decades(underground, not mainstream).

However, I'm not sure your point. All I'm saying is that the vocals are similar, and might have inspired Japanese singers. Did they? I don't know, I was just noting the similarity.

starrynight 05-12-2011 08:12 AM

Japanese music has been very influenced by Western music, particularly American, since the 60s. Sometimes it can come across as just copying, other times as an interesting twist. Generally I do prefer older Japanese music.

Howard the Duck 05-12-2011 08:28 AM

i am curioused by him

i'd like to think I like him

(me too)

Ska Lagos Jew Sun Ra 05-12-2011 09:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Il Duce (Post 1052383)
i am curioused by him

i'd like to think I like him

(me too)

The 'Evening with Wildman Fischer' is very experimental. Spends much more focus on trying to simulate the world of an acid casualty paranoid schizophrenic street performer rather than build a repertoire of memorable song. For that reason, I love it. Remember, though, this means the majority of it is rants, and field tapings.

Howard the Duck 05-12-2011 09:34 AM

^^will check it out

i only heard some of his street acapella songs


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