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TockTockTock 02-20-2012 05:36 PM

I like his voice, but how would he be considered a genius? Anyone care to shed some light on this?

Mr November 02-24-2012 06:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Jack Pat (Post 1157078)
I like his voice, but how would he be considered a genius? Anyone care to shed some light on this?

After you uploaded one of his songs on mumu I thought it was really interesting an went and checked it out more. It seems like a lot of his tracks have an element of acting. It's great voice acting which is what makes it so appealing to me.

I'm also not sure how he would be considered a genius, but it looks like he was at least very misunderstood.

What's interesting about the Evening With Wild Man Fischer album is that it was produced at all/the production.

Moodiesfanalways 02-26-2012 04:56 PM

When that album was first released around the Summer of 1969, in my area FM radio was still fairly limited (I grew up in Denver). You had two stations playing top 40 rock, one station playing album oriented rock, and sadly neither of those type stations would touch Fischer with a 10 foot poll. But the college underground stations would, did, and that's how I found out about the lp. And yea, it's OUT THERE!

crazed 05-31-2013 11:42 AM

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This is the only Wild Man Fischer I've heard. Too many of his releases are out of print. I've been thinking about picking up the "Derailroaded: Inside The Mind Of Larry Wild Man Fischer" dvd. I suppose it would be a nice companion piece to the Daniel Johnston documentary.

Chives 06-10-2013 01:41 AM

Ohhhhhh, I never realized we had a Wild Man Fischer thread and I never bothered to look it up. Great thread bump, crazed!

I've always wanted to listen to his later albums to see if they portray him in a more positive light, but at the very least the debut is an interesting documentary of an interesting man. A shame the Zappa estate has let the album fall out of print...I guess there was bad blood between the Zappa family and Fischer so it's not surprising but still a shame. He definitely doesn't come off as an outsider music genius or anything to me but the album is very different and well put together, and that alone makes it worth a listen every now and again. I'd love to find a copy while record digging, but fat chance of that ever happening!

Screen13 06-15-2013 03:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Chives (Post 1330471)
Ohhhhhh, I never realized we had a Wild Man Fischer thread and I never bothered to look it up. Great thread bump, crazed!

I've always wanted to listen to his later albums to see if they portray him in a more positive light, but at the very least the debut is an interesting documentary of an interesting man. A shame the Zappa estate has let the album fall out of print...I guess there was bad blood between the Zappa family and Fischer so it's not surprising but still a shame. He definitely doesn't come off as an outsider music genius or anything to me but the album is very different and well put together, and that alone makes it worth a listen every now and again. I'd love to find a copy while record digging, but fat chance of that ever happening!

The bad blood between Zappa and Fisher was very deep by the A Evening With... went nowhere. The saddest part of the story involved Fisher throwing a jar at Moon Unit (a child then), but there was also accusations that Zappa ripped him off thinking that the album sold a lot while the reality of the situation saw it sell very little - possibly as much as The GTO's album. Even an appearance on Laugh In could not generate interest. I have the DVD From Straight to Bizarre which told the story with a nice amount of detail along with other stories revolving around the Zappa-related labels.

Wild Man Fischer - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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I think a lot of the interest in his music is more with the connections he's made through the years - Zappa, the early days of Rhino Records, Bill Mumy, and a couple of others. Of course that's the interest in "Outsider Music" as well.

Chives 06-17-2013 10:10 PM

Wow, somehow I ended up buying a copy of An Evening With Wild Man Fischer at a local store over the weekend. They were like "we got this weird rare album produced by Frank Zappa" and I couldn't believe it! It's not in great condition but I didn't have to pay any hard cash since I had a ton of store credit.

My opinion of the album has changed a bit after giving it a bit of a relisten. Zappa's production gives the album a very interesting documentary structure...almost exactly like Trout Mask Replica does for Captain Beefheart. Of course, Beefheart and his band more than support themselves musically while Fischer doesn't as much on his album. It's his stories and personality that drive it (for me, it's almost worth the price of admission just so I can compare and contrast it with Trout Mask Replica, which is my favorite album). Hearing Fischer on the streets interacting with people is fascinating as well, great stuff there. Urban field recordings! And hearing Zappa and the Mothers backing up Fischer on those couple of tracks is pretty awesome too.

Not an amazing album but it's unique and I think it has earned its place in my collection. Good to give a listen to every year or so. Definitely going to make an effort to check out his Rhino material...if I can find it.

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Originally Posted by Screen13 (Post 1332805)
The bad blood between Zappa and Fisher was very deep by the A Evening With... went nowhere. The saddest part of the story involved Fisher throwing a jar at Moon Unit (a child then), but there was also accusations that Zappa ripped him off thinking that the album sold a lot while the reality of the situation saw it sell very little - possibly as much as The GTO's album. Even an appearance on Laugh In could not generate interest. I have the DVD From Straight to Bizarre which told the story with a nice amount of detail along with other stories revolving around the Zappa-related labels.

I heard about Fischer doing something that endangered Zappas kid. So sad, no wonder that album has never been issued on CD by the Zappa estate. Not that it would sell much even if it was...maybe that's more of the reason! And that derailroaded documentary looks really interesting, as does From Straight to Bizarre...I will have to remember to check them out when I get the chance. :)

Screen13 06-20-2013 04:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Chives (Post 1333613)

I heard about Fischer doing something that endangered Zappas kid. So sad, no wonder that album has never been issued on CD by the Zappa estate. Not that it would sell much even if it was...maybe that's more of the reason! And that derailroaded documentary looks really interesting, as does From Straight to Bizarre...I will have to remember to check them out when I get the chance. :)

From Straight to Bizarre, much like the other Sexy Intellectual disc I got on the same day Strange Fruit: The The Beatles' Apple Records, were surprisingly good, both very long Documentaries. The disc on Zappa's label covers a lot of territory including good segments on Beefhart and Fisher.

Gavin B. 06-21-2013 10:35 PM

Merry Go Round by Wild Man Fischer

The novelty wears off on about the third or fourth time you play it.


ShopVacAbortion 09-26-2013 07:55 AM


My favorite Wild Man Fischer song


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