^Actually no. I haven't listened to any of his newer stuff, just those 80s albums. So, what does it sound like today? Have you heard it?

It's called "HIDE" and it's being hailed as one of his best in a while. I got my copy yesterday and I really like it. You can listen to some excerpts from it on the official website. I cannot post a url link as I do not have 15 posts yet. ;)

i was thinking of picking up hide....it's pretty cheap on the Foetus website

have you heard JG Thrilwell's solo album....'Manorexia: The Mesopelagic Waters'....released earlier this year.....its quite good

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I still have not got that album, although it sounds pretty good. I have got quite a lot of Jims stuff, although that one still eludes me. Is it a recommendation of yours then?

oh yeah....thrilwell doing what he does best :)

I must get myself a copy then when I get the chance.

>>> Is there a website where I can find this stuff? It's pretty hard to find.


brainwashed.com is a great place to start - or iheartnoise.com (go to forums after the main logo screen)

I disappear for so long and this thread is still going, wow.

yep coil is good, industrial type stuff maybe some skinny puppy allready mentioned in here but they are good, nekropolis play what i would discribe as industrial kraut rock, as for electronic industrial freak noise i have resently found my new favorite band apocalyptic frequency experience are ****in awsome, as for electronic as iv'e said befor :) you can't go past klause schulze, if you want ambient pete namlook is a sure bet and if you join the two you have a super electronic ambient in the form of the DARK SIDE OF THE MOOG ten disc set and one bonus the making of the dark side of the moog, pete namlooks AIR albums are also good ambient music, ALIEN AMBIENT GALAXY would have to be one of my favorit amdient albums, Manuel Gottsching does some good wat i would call ambient music, here's another place you might find what your looking for, Justnotnormal Netlabel , looks like iv'e got a lot of listning to do by the looks of all the bands you guys have put in here,

I can write a paragraph or two about why I like this kind of music, but I'm not sure that you are gonna warm yourself to it just because of the bunch of words. It would be nice to know where are you coming from. What have you tried from this kind of music? I've seen in another thread that you don't get Throbbing Gristle. It sounds strange to you 'cause you're not familiar with its aesthetics. In that case it's essential to have a curiosity to try and figure it out. Without a genuine curiosity you're not really open to it even though you say you are.

If you really want to hear more than just yelling and noise in it, it would be a good idea to try to understand the aesthetics of the ugly, the use of dissonance, order in chaos etc, and how that affects our feelings when we consume it in art form. But, it's not enough to understand this intellectually, you have to feel it and enjoy it, even though it brings you discomfort. And that exactly is the point. Learn to enjoy unpleasantness and discomfort on an aesthetic level. Experience with experimental music and art in general is extremely helpful. Maybe then it'll come to you. I really don't know how else can I help you get it. I can't lend you my ears.