Strategies Against Architecture - The Avant Garde/Experimental Album Club

TockTockTock · 02-14-2011, 06:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Janszoon

Sorry if you feel that way, but I never meant to blatantly judge the music. I was just expressing how I felt about what I've listened to. Just because I feel a certain way doesn't mean I won't end up liking it. I didn't like Hendrix right away but that took some time. Also (and you're probably going to deny this), you seem to be a very patronizing person from my experience with speaking with you. Some of the comments that I see you post seem to aim at provoking another individual. Of course, you'll deny this or respond with some sarcastic remark (maybe I'm just over-predicting it). Would it kill you to be a bit nicer instead of laughing or saying something a bit patronizing towards someone?

**Janszoon** · 02-14-2011, 07:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Jack Pat

Sorry if you feel that way, but I never meant to blatantly judge the music. I was just expressing how I felt about what I've listened to. Just because I feel a certain way doesn't mean I won't end up liking it. I didn't like Hendrix right away but that took some time. Also (and you're probably going to deny this), you seem to be a very patronizing person from my experience with speaking with you. Some of the comments that I see you post seem to aim at provoking another individual. Of course, you'll deny this or respond with some sarcastic remark (maybe I'm just over-predicting it). Would it kill you to be a bit nicer instead of laughing or saying something a bit patronizing towards someone?

I'm sorry for finding your comments funny Jack Pat. I'll be sure to take everything you say super-seriously in the future.

TockTockTock · 02-14-2011, 07:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Janszoon

I'm sorry for finding your comments funny Jack Pat. I'll be sure to take everything you say super-seriously in the future.

I rest my case.

OccultHawk · 02-14-2011, 07:21 PM

It's a great record. Not to review it advance. Learn to love it!

**Janszoon** · 02-14-2011, 07:24 PM

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Originally Posted by OccultHawk

Watch out or he'll accuse you of being patronizing!

clutnuckle · 02-14-2011, 07:30 PM

I'd always assumed the point of such a group was to force you out of your comfort zone. That's generally what the purpose of avant-garde music is (as a blanket statement, of course). In order to truly introduce and reinforce new forms of the avant-garde, they need to be given a fair shot. Perhaps if you download this, you'll learn to appreciate noisier, more improvisational and more angular works. Perhaps not. But you'll gain the experience, the ability to discuss it intelligently, and you'll know you've given the genre the old college try.

Had I known I might not like Flux, I probably still would've downloaded it, as I want to contribute something to this group (it's tight-nit enough as it is!) and maybe I'd find something to enjoy.

TockTockTock · 02-14-2011, 07:37 PM

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Originally Posted by clutnuckle

I'd always assumed the point of such a group was to force you out of your comfort zone. That's generally what the purpose of avant-garde music is (as a blanket statement, of course). In order to truly introduce and reinforce new forms of the avant-garde, they need to be given a fair shot. Perhaps if you download this, you'll learn to appreciate noisier, more improvisational and more angular works. Perhaps not. But you'll gain the experience, the ability to discuss it intelligently, and you'll know you've given the genre the old college try.

Had I known I might not like Flux, I probably still would've downloaded it, as I want to contribute something to this group (it's tight-nit enough as it is!) and maybe I'd find something to enjoy.

I never said I wasn't going to give it a try. I was just saying how I felt. You're definitely right, though.

EDIT: By the way, this isn't the 1989 re-release is it? It has the same album cover but it's not labeled as such.

dankrsta · 02-17-2011, 02:47 PM

So I already asked this in another thread, but would you like me to add polls to discussion threads so that you can rate these albums? Personally, I don't really like to rate numerically or whatever, but maybe it would be helpful for some like OccultHawk pointed out. However, for those curious about these albums I feel it would be more helpful to read our comments than to just check our ratings.

But, anyway, what do you say? Rating polls or no rating polls?

clutnuckle · 02-17-2011, 03:10 PM

I'd like it, as long as it involved words rather than numbers. I'd much rather say the album is excellent than '4.0/5.0!!!'. Numbers have a tendency to obscure meanings due to their subjective value, whereas the definitions of words are set and can't be tampered with much beyond a slight tweak.

dankrsta · 02-17-2011, 03:21 PM

Yeah that's what I had in mind actually, words not the actual numbers. OK I'll think of the format and a number of options.

View Poll Results: What next?
Hermann Nitsch - Requiem für meine Frau Beate (Musik der 56.Aktion)	0	0%
Scissor Shock - Psychic Existentialist	0	0%
Art Zoyd - Berlin	2	66.67%
Meredith Monk - Dolmen Music	0	0%
Minimal Man - The Shroud Of	1	33.33%
Voters: 3. You may not vote on this poll

02-17-2011, 02:47 PM	#208 (permalink)
dankrsta ... Join Date: Apr 2010 Posts: 1,776	So I already asked this in another thread, but would you like me to add polls to discussion threads so that you can rate these albums? Personally, I don't really like to rate numerically or whatever, but maybe it would be helpful for some like OccultHawk pointed out. However, for those curious about these albums I feel it would be more helpful to read our comments than to just check our ratings. But, anyway, what do you say? Rating polls or no rating polls? __________________ Last.fm

02-17-2011, 03:21 PM	#210 (permalink)
dankrsta ... Join Date: Apr 2010 Posts: 1,776	Yeah that's what I had in mind actually, words not the actual numbers. OK I'll think of the format and a number of options. __________________ Last.fm

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02-14-2011, 07:21 PM	#204 (permalink)
OccultHawk one-balled nipple jockey Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Dirty Souf Biatch Posts: 22,033	It's a great record. Not to review it advance. Learn to love it!

02-14-2011, 07:30 PM	#206 (permalink)
clutnuckle Music Addict Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: -_-_-_-_~__~-~_-`_`-~_-`-~-~ Posts: 1,276	I'd always assumed the point of such a group was to force you out of your comfort zone. That's generally what the purpose of avant-garde music is (as a blanket statement, of course). In order to truly introduce and reinforce new forms of the avant-garde, they need to be given a fair shot. Perhaps if you download this, you'll learn to appreciate noisier, more improvisational and more angular works. Perhaps not. But you'll gain the experience, the ability to discuss it intelligently, and you'll know you've given the genre the old college try. Had I known I might not like Flux, I probably still would've downloaded it, as I want to contribute something to this group (it's tight-nit enough as it is!) and maybe I'd find something to enjoy.

02-17-2011, 03:10 PM	#209 (permalink)
clutnuckle Music Addict Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: -_-_-_-_~__~-~_-`_`-~_-`-~-~ Posts: 1,276	I'd like it, as long as it involved words rather than numbers. I'd much rather say the album is excellent than '4.0/5.0!!!'. Numbers have a tendency to obscure meanings due to their subjective value, whereas the definitions of words are set and can't be tampered with much beyond a slight tweak.