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Old 04-05-2012, 06:45 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Why is that? Is there any documented evidence that shows there were musicians making this kind of music before '59? [/FONT]
Sorry you're right, I was thinking more in terms of the free improvisation that was already taking place within Jazz at the time as opposed to the more modern avant-garde style of free improv they present.
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Old 11-17-2011, 08:09 AM   #2 (permalink)
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This is really cool!"
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Old 11-27-2011, 09:18 PM   #3 (permalink)
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I never liked it until I started unintentionally doing it with my group. Maybe improvisational music is the true essence of what many would consider music for musicians.
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Old 11-27-2011, 09:34 PM   #4 (permalink)
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I always just considered it idle jamming, which invariably happens in every band's practice room until the lead singer starts whining...
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I always just considered it idle jamming, which invariably happens in every band's practice room until the lead singer starts whining...
Technically, yes. Well... just as long as the members aren't completely falling back on any specific timbres, rhythms, etc that are associated with other genres, then yea... But... often times free improvisation requires a lot of thought and attention enable to make a decent recording or live performance. If you're unable to do this, then the music will end up being dull and repetitive.

I also meant to ask why is it that Group Ongaku never receive the credit they deserve for helping create free improvisation. Frequently, I encounter people citing aleatoric compositions (music centered around chance operations) and free jazz as being the predecessors to the genre even though Group Ongaku were making free improvisational music around the time when free jazz's inception. As far as documented music is concerned... they invented free improvisation.


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Old 04-05-2012, 07:26 AM   #6 (permalink)
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it's just not following any "box" or scale

it contains element of chromaticism, and atonal scales

i base my free jazz on Trout Mask Replica, usually
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