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Old 11-03-2008, 09:33 PM   #61 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by loldongs View Post
something tells me i have to bring up salieri.
He was so overshadowed by Mozart, so he never really got the attention he probably deserved.
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Old 11-05-2008, 08:53 PM   #62 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by agoodw1 View Post

And Chopin isn't underrated is he? Growing up I learnt tons of his stuff on piano. But maybe that's just because I was learning classical piano. But anyway he is certainly one of my favourites.
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Old 11-11-2008, 07:51 PM   #63 (permalink)
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Not too underrated but I'll go with Carl Philipp Emanuel Bach. his work is great and I actually prefer it to J S Bach.
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Old 11-11-2008, 10:41 PM   #64 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by lateralus View Post

And Chopin isn't underrated is he? Growing up I learnt tons of his stuff on piano. But maybe that's just because I was learning classical piano. But anyway he is certainly one of my favourites.
I wouldn't call Debussy underrated...

When someone says underrated, it means that people don't know about him/her or do not credit them. I feel like Debussy has been well recognized and has been credited by a great many of musicians after him.
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from the critic side i'd say Puccini...
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Old 02-06-2009, 07:43 PM   #67 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by jackhammer View Post
OK Frank Zappa. His classical pieces are phenomenal and disgustingly underated.
I like the way this man talks...

How about one of the most inspirational composers of Frank's, Edgard Varese...
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Old 02-07-2009, 01:29 PM   #68 (permalink)
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Heitor Villa-Lobos is a very well-known composer in Latin America but I don't think many people know about him in The States/Europe. I've played a couple of guitar suites and his Bachianas brasileiras arranged for orchestra and they're all beautiful works.
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I think my choice would have to be Gian Piero Reverberi; the Italian guy who founded Rondo Veneziano. Pretty much unheard of here, they're incredibly popular in Europe, having made about 60 or so CDs. Although somewhat generic in style, Rondo Veneziano have brought Italian Baroque music to the masses by giving it a modern, pop-orientated style.

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Old 02-17-2009, 09:14 PM   #70 (permalink)
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Default Chabrier and plenty of others

Oh god, this thread is kind of old. But I must say this. No one has mentioned one of my favorite composers, he's horribly underrated.

Emmanuel Chabrier. His music is on par with the greats, he is practically only known for his Espana, even though, Suite Pastorale and Gwendoline, and others are truly fabulous. Not a soul ever talks about him it seems. He came before Debussy and Satie, but he influenced them both, he is the source of that parisian avante garde movement, he is huge in the developement of "the six". If I had to pick one, it would be Chabrier!

Of course, there are others, Johann Strauss II has been mentioned, and I believe this to be true, I much prefer him to Richard. How about Gustav Holst, people know the Planets Suite, one of the greatest pieces of music out there, but hardly know his name. Erik Satie has been mentioned, quite a few refuse to take his gymnopedies and gnossienes seriously, sadly, and few recognize that he wrote Parade, and alot of cool "normal" piano pieces that sound Scott Joplin-esque and are often better to listen to and more clever than Debussy pieces. This brings me to the man himself, Scott Joplin. He founded a genre of music, Maple Leaf rag is a gem and this kind of stuff came out of nowhere. Its really easy to consider his music classical, but most want to put it off as ragtime, which I believe to be a hybrid subgenre of classical and jazz, it was composed in the tradition of classical, notated and such, and I believe it should be treated that way. When it came out, there was no Jazz. Bacharinni, that early classical dude, must've been good, everyone knows his minuet tune, but not his name, and this minuet is excellant, I don't know his other stuff. Aaron Copland, I mean, his music is hugely appreciated and so is he as a historic figure, but plenty of traditional classical snobs bill him as inferior, even if they don't really mean to. And he was really, really, really excellant, nothing else to it, just like Chabrier(except poor Chabrier didn't have America to support him). I think Zappa is a little bit pretentious, but he probably doesn't get as much credit as he deserves. Not a classical composer, but Joe Jackson, I love his music, wrote that "Symphony no. 1" and I find the second movement to be great, and it had a similar and why the hell not equal creative process to writing a symphony. Plus his new wave and jazz stuff is amazing. He was somewhat trained as a traditional composer but broke off into the pop scene. Ooh, a really good one, George Martin, he composed string music for the Beatles, he came up with so many good sound ideas for them. I think that John Phillip Sousa is pretty neat and original. So many people underrate many of Haydn's works and overrate others. The first movement of his Clock Symphony is incredible and not considered much. The Surprise Symphony has been elevated to a slightly pompus status. But the 2nd movement of the Clock Symphony is just right. As long as I've mentioned Haydn, I thought of someone much more deserving of being called underrated, Leopold Mozart.

I don't know much about this fellow, but I'll throw out Toru Takemitsu as well. He seems thoughtful about his notes, very original, and Copland thought highly of him, . Oh, and I forgot to mention Camille Saint Saens, he is widely respected, but many wrongfully call his music superficial in my opinion, I think it is marvelous and that he truly was the next Mozart, its like people can't appreciate his music because they are freaked out by the fact that he was such an insane child prodigy, he wasn't as respected as it seems he should have been with that, therefore, he must not have lived up to his potential. This is bull****! Oh, and Jaques Offenbach is also underrated in that he is better than Wagner, and not as highly thought of as he should be! There is plenty of lute music from Italy in the rennaisance period that is beautiful, and the composers are hardly known. These are the ones I can back up adequately and/or really, really want to put up, there are others. Remember Chabrier!


Johann Strauss II
Gustav Holst
Erik Satie
Scott Joplin(ragtime=american classical piano)
Luigi Bacharinni
Aaron Copland(to a lesser degree by some significant circles)
Frank Zappa
Joe Jackson
George Martin
John Phillip Sousa
Joseph Haydn(to a lesser degree by some significant circles)
Leopold Mozart
Toru Takemitsu
Lute composers from Rennaisance Italy.
-and to a lesser degree by some significant circles:
Camille Saint-Saens
Jacques Offenbach
And and I forgot to mention that:
One day, i'll show up alot on lists like this, .

On the flip side, I appreciate their music and they are great and all, but...
Richard Wagner(its annoying that people say he is better than Offenbach, let alone Tchaikovky!)
Richard Strauss
can't think of any others right now, I'm not sure how I feel about saying any composer is overrated, you know I like R. Strauss and Wagner, its just when they overshadow others that I like better.

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