What do people think of Vivaldi?

brandilistens · 10-22-2011, 03:35 PM

I love some of the pieces he did for the bassoon. An underused instrument for many composers.

Secretchord · 10-31-2011, 08:21 PM

This guy is very good!!

IsotopeBill · 04-04-2013, 06:08 AM

I'm always smiling when I listen to Vivaldi. He's an exciting composer, lots of fun listening to him.

Burning Down · 04-15-2013, 07:59 PM

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I was lucky to pick up a vinyl copy of his Fours Seasons. Vivaldi is up there with the great one.

Who's the great one?

bernard666 · 04-04-2013, 08:13 PM

really love him

zombie kid · 05-25-2013, 12:12 PM

Vivaldi has always been one of my favourites. The Four Seasons violin concertos are great to listen to, but very hard to play and that definitely offers a different perspective on them. Those pieces are really the pinnacle of his work.

anathematized_one · 06-02-2013, 03:21 PM

I view Vivaldi the same as I do Mozart; 90% of it is crap and it is the only stuff you can find because it is popular ["Four Seasons" is the absolute most trite and wanky garbage he ever composed much like the most popular Mozart pieces] because at the time, the trite, kitschy stuff is what sold, so they made tons of it so they could afford to live and the actual good compositions with genuine feeling flew under the radar and are difficult as hell to come across. Like trying to find anything by Pacheball that is NOT "Cannon in D".

I find nothing wrong with complexity, but it is only the wanky complexity tthat is vacuous and simply a masturbatory and display of technical skill that people are impressed by.

Such as the difference between Jason Becker and Yngwie Malmsteen. Yes, Malmsteen is technically magnificent at playing, but it actually is nothing more than ornate wankery from a purely musical expression standpoint over a generic pentatonic rhythm and people eat it up.

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Burning Down · 06-02-2013, 03:26 PM

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Originally Posted by anathematized_one

I view Vivaldi the same as I do Mozart; 90% of it is crap and it is the only stuff you can find because it is popular ["Four Seasons" is the absolute most trite and wanky garbage he ever composed much like the most popular Mozart pieces] because at the time, the trite, kitschy stuff is what sold, so they made tons of it so they could afford to live and the actual good compositions with genuine feeling flew under the radar and are difficult as hell to come across. Like trying to find anything by Pacheball that is NOT "Cannon in D".

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Do you listen to much classical at all or are you just making this opinion based on the popular stuff you've heard a million times?

anathematized_one · 06-02-2013, 03:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Burning Down

Do you listen to much classical at all or are you just making this opinion based on the popular stuff you've heard a million times?

Actually I do listen to a lot of classical.

Should I need any more proof that my opinion is not simply of one that any might illogically consider to be unworthy of having one, I also have studied music theory and music history extensively to include university courses, as well as play ajd compose classical music, which many might think would make one more qualified to make such an assertion as what I did, but in actuality doesn't mean anything.

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Burning Down · 06-02-2013, 03:33 PM

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Originally Posted by anathematized_one

Actually I do listen to a lot of classical.

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Have you played any of it, like for lessons or performances, if you play an instrument? Playing this music always offers a different perspective.

I hold a different opinion, so I'm trying to understand yours.

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10-22-2011, 03:35 PM	#1 (permalink)
brandilistens Groupie Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Kansas City Posts: 8	I love some of the pieces he did for the bassoon. An underused instrument for many composers.

10-31-2011, 08:21 PM	#2 (permalink)
Secretchord Groupie Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: BC, Canada Posts: 8	This guy is very good!!

04-04-2013, 06:08 AM	#3 (permalink)
IsotopeBill Groupie Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Homerton Posts: 20	I'm always smiling when I listen to Vivaldi. He's an exciting composer, lots of fun listening to him.

04-04-2013, 08:13 PM	#5 (permalink)
bernard666 Groupie Join Date: Apr 2013 Posts: 16	really love him

05-25-2013, 12:12 PM	#6 (permalink)
zombie kid Music Addict Join Date: May 2013 Location: in a grave. Posts: 77	Vivaldi has always been one of my favourites. The Four Seasons violin concertos are great to listen to, but very hard to play and that definitely offers a different perspective on them. Those pieces are really the pinnacle of his work.