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SGR 08-22-2021 02:19 PM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord (Post 2182109)
I'll take 20th century classical over free jazz tbh.

I'd expect nothing less from an ICP fanboy.

SGR 08-22-2021 02:22 PM

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Originally Posted by jadis (Post 2182105)
lol where did you even find this one?

My parents are Russian piano nerds and I played sonatinas by Mozart, Clementi and Cimarosa as a little kid, but never heard of this guy.

I had some friends in college who were music majors and also ****ing nerds (yeah, I repeat myself). But I chose him because I wanted a classical composer that started with 'C' so I could mirror (M)iles and (C)oltrane. First one that came to mind.

Edit: ****. I double-posted again.

jadis 08-23-2021 06:11 AM

How bout this for a C composer?




He's famous for syrupy orchestral Americana like Billie The Kid and Appalachian Spring, but this is the real $hit.

Frownland 08-23-2021 08:24 AM

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Originally Posted by SoundgardenRocks (Post 2182089)
Today, classical music basically has a niche of performances at amphitheaters so that bougie people can spend lots of money to feel classy and sophisticated and pretend that they enjoy and appreciate what they're hearing.

A genre that has a built in audience in addition to "genuine" enthusiasts sounds pretty relevant to me.

The Batlord 08-23-2021 09:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 2182229)
A genre that has a built in audience in addition to "genuine" enthusiasts sounds pretty relevant to me.

You're reaching, bruh.

Frownland 08-23-2021 09:24 AM

tfw you're so irrelevant that people regularly pretend to like you for social purposes

The Batlord 08-23-2021 10:02 AM

But don't actually listen so not very relevant.

Frownland 08-23-2021 10:05 AM

Nothing's wholly relevant anymore you dumb bitch.

The Batlord 08-23-2021 10:09 AM

By your standards relevancy is pretty hard to lose.

Frownland 08-23-2021 10:18 AM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord (Post 2182258)
By your standards relevancy is pretty hard to lose.

More like it's so impossible to gain your ideal of universal relevancy in art that relevancy to a sizeable audience counts.

My key contention here is using the audience as evidence against there being an audience for the genre on the assumption that they're not trve enough. Even if it were true, there wouldn't be so many fake emcees in classical music if there wasn't a relevant element to cater to.

The Batlord 08-23-2021 10:31 AM

Want me to lend a hand with those goalposts?

Frownland 08-23-2021 10:50 AM

It was the starting point that I clarified for a particular dumb bitch.

The Batlord 08-23-2021 10:53 AM

Trying to redefine relevancy is not a starting point

Frownland 08-23-2021 10:54 AM

Why are you redefining relevancy then?

The Batlord 08-23-2021 11:15 AM

Ah, the Rubber/Glue defense.

Frownland 08-23-2021 11:17 AM

You're just mad I'm not letting you gatekeep relevancy.

The Batlord 08-23-2021 12:00 PM

Isn't that kinda the point of relevancy?

jadis 08-23-2021 12:28 PM

What seems sad to me is that most of the people who say it's still "relevant" believe that "classical music" is something along the lines of the soundtrack of Frozen, the inspiration behind Eric Carmen's "All by myself", and BBC's disgusting Last Night of the Proms. I'd rather become an ICP groupie and chug sugar water at every show than sit through 15 minutes of this:






The Batlord 08-23-2021 12:49 PM

You know the Faygo thing is actually a lot of fun.

jadis 08-23-2021 01:29 PM

I can see that, I love the whole carnivalesque aspect of it: a gathering of the juggalos is where all the rules that govern your normal life are suspended, you do the opposite of what you would do in everyday life etc. Seems cool.

Frownland 08-23-2021 02:21 PM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord (Post 2182287)
Isn't that kinda the point of relevancy?

Used to be but that approach isn't really relevant anymore.

elphenor 08-23-2021 02:22 PM

re: Juggalos

if only it could be done to a soundtrack of non-suck ass music

Frownland 08-23-2021 02:40 PM

I'd go to a gathering, that **** looks fun af.

jadis 08-23-2021 02:42 PM

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Originally Posted by elphenor (Post 2182315)
re: Juggalos

if only it could be done to a soundtrack of non-suck ass music

Consider this: for 362 or 363 or even 364 days a year you listen to good music.

But for the remainder of the year you suspend or even overturn all your ideas about what is good music and embrace the joys of dissolving yourself in the crowd, of no longer knowing or caring where you end and your neighbor begins, of gurgling brightly colored soda pop and whatever else they do for fun. Sounds interesting, no?

The Batlord 08-23-2021 04:55 PM

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Originally Posted by elphenor (Post 2182315)
re: Juggalos

if only it could be done to a soundtrack of non-suck ass music

You're in luck.


elphenor 08-23-2021 05:52 PM

Bad music is like an intolerable smell

although I'm imagining they got the bad smell too

jadis 08-23-2021 07:38 PM

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Originally Posted by elphenor (Post 2182331)
Bad music is like an intolerable smell

although I'm imagining they got the bad smell too

Nothing can smell worse than this. The Last Night of the Proms makes me want to join ISIS


Tristan_Geoff 08-24-2021 09:22 PM

Holy **** I heard the best album I’ve heard in a long time last night, it fuses classical impressionism with Neo-Soul and Hip Hop.

Look up Infinity Knives, Dear Sudan is the album.

Destined to become an MB classic bc it’s so unknown. Imo better than to pimp a butterfly

Tristan_Geoff 08-24-2021 09:23 PM


bob_32_116 08-25-2021 01:58 PM

Music is relevant if people still want to play it and listen to it. And there are plenty of people who enjoy playing and listening to classical music. So yes, it's still" relevant".

Minx 09-14-2021 11:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Burning Down (Post 1358786)
In comparison with today's music (pop, rock, metal, electronica, etc). Does classical music still have a place amongst today's audience

To me pop music isn't relevant. I never listen to it. Unless I have to take the elevator. Or go shopping. Then I'm forced to listen.

jadis 09-15-2021 08:30 AM

You sound like a man of superior judgement. Welcome to MB!

muzimad 09-15-2021 11:08 AM

I believe classical music is still extremely popular, especially among certain groups of people including me.

Minx 12-02-2021 03:09 PM

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Originally Posted by jadis (Post 2185135)
You sound like a man of superior judgement. Welcome to MB!

I'm a woman of superior judgement :nono:

jadis 12-03-2021 12:42 PM

Huh usually it's the guys who are this autistic

rostasi 12-03-2021 12:47 PM

Yeah, it's usually men who are snobs.

Celladorina 12-06-2021 04:19 PM

I think classical music is still highly relevant. Just look at how popular Han Zimmer is with the incredible music we hear in movies!


This is my favourite classical piece to date:



MasterRaro 02-22-2022 02:35 PM

relevance is a dubious concept. If relevance is defined in consequentialist terms only, no music has greater relevance than Taylor Swift - and no human has greater influence than Selena Gomez or the Rock.

Give it another 50 years. Taylor Swift will be forgotten, but Beethoven will still be there making the world a better place.


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