tfw you're so irrelevant that people regularly pretend to like you for social purposes

But don't actually listen so not very relevant.

Nothing's wholly relevant anymore you dumb bitch.

By your standards relevancy is pretty hard to lose.

More like it's so impossible to gain your ideal of universal relevancy in art that relevancy to a sizeable audience counts.

My key contention here is using the audience as evidence against there being an audience for the genre on the assumption that they're not trve enough. Even if it were true, there wouldn't be so many fake emcees in classical music if there wasn't a relevant element to cater to.

Want me to lend a hand with those goalposts?

It was the starting point that I clarified for a particular dumb bitch.

Trying to redefine relevancy is not a starting point

Why are you redefining relevancy then?

Ah, the Rubber/Glue defense.

You're just mad I'm not letting you gatekeep relevancy.

Isn't that kinda the point of relevancy?

What seems sad to me is that most of the people who say it's still "relevant" believe that "classical music" is something along the lines of the soundtrack of Frozen, the inspiration behind Eric Carmen's "All by myself", and BBC's disgusting Last Night of the Proms. I'd rather become an ICP groupie and chug sugar water at every show than sit through 15 minutes of this:

You know the Faygo thing is actually a lot of fun.

I can see that, I love the whole carnivalesque aspect of it: a gathering of the juggalos is where all the rules that govern your normal life are suspended, you do the opposite of what you would do in everyday life etc. Seems cool.

Used to be but that approach isn't really relevant anymore.

I'd go to a gathering, that **** looks fun af.

Consider this: for 362 or 363 or even 364 days a year you listen to good music.

But for the remainder of the year you suspend or even overturn all your ideas about what is good music and embrace the joys of dissolving yourself in the crowd, of no longer knowing or caring where you end and your neighbor begins, of gurgling brightly colored soda pop and whatever else they do for fun. Sounds interesting, no?

You're in luck.

Nothing can smell worse than this. The Last Night of the Proms makes me want to join ISIS

Holy **** I heard the best album I’ve heard in a long time last night, it fuses classical impressionism with Neo-Soul and Hip Hop.

Look up Infinity Knives, Dear Sudan is the album.

Destined to become an MB classic bc it’s so unknown. Imo better than to pimp a butterfly

Music is relevant if people still want to play it and listen to it. And there are plenty of people who enjoy playing and listening to classical music. So yes, it's still" relevant".

To me pop music isn't relevant. I never listen to it. Unless I have to take the elevator. Or go shopping. Then I'm forced to listen.

You sound like a man of superior judgement. Welcome to MB!

I believe classical music is still extremely popular, especially among certain groups of people including me.

I'm a woman of superior judgement :nono:

Huh usually it's the guys who are this autistic

Yeah, it's usually men who are snobs.

I think classical music is still highly relevant. Just look at how popular Han Zimmer is with the incredible music we hear in movies!


This is my favourite classical piece to date:

relevance is a dubious concept. If relevance is defined in consequentialist terms only, no music has greater relevance than Taylor Swift - and no human has greater influence than Selena Gomez or the Rock.

Give it another 50 years. Taylor Swift will be forgotten, but Beethoven will still be there making the world a better place.

Yes, classical music is the fundamental of any music that exists today. You take Bach's Fugues for example, and you can learn how to layer sounds and how to exhibit each voice such that the listener can catch onto the melody, as well as create interesting harmonies.

The 1-4-5 chord progressions pop musicians use today are going out the window IMO. Classical music is on a comeback. Good music is good music regardless of instrumentation.

To me, music is a joke these days. Today's stars are more famous for their names rather than their talent.

Classical is still alive and kicking. Familiar themes keep coming up in today's popular music. Love, tragedy, struggle, pain, glory, humility, pride. The whole schabang. What is music if it cannot express these ideas constantly. I listened to Carl Orff’s Carmina Burana (1935) today.

Carl Orff – O Fortuna

www.youtube.com/watch?v=mTWvlwZ7AJw

Carmina Burana is great, but it's "songs" are so catchy I tend to get them stuck in my head to an annoying degree. They're almost more like pop tunes.

^Thanks DYCDTTS. Helps me to understand the 19th and early 20th century better - they must have had their popular, mainstream, prog, alternative, obscure genres as well.

Been listening to Ahmad Jamal for a number of years and the track “Swahililand” always stuck in my head. Recently I learnt from a Robert Glasper vid that it was sampled by J Dilla.
Also interested in the piano runs and I thought hey a lot them sound like they could come from classical composers. Perhaps Debussy, Rachmaninov, Beethoven, Mozart? Any less mainstream, more obscure ones?
Jamal strikes me as someone who played at the crossroads, taking the past and projecting into the future. Like the god Janus.

Ahmad Jamal – Swahililand (1974)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l3S1naGY9EQ

I forgot Grieg godammit.

Short answer No and I still stand behind that to this day!

Every kind of music is relevant today, and for always.

As new listeners discover classical music, or rap, or rock, or jazz, or blues, etc. - the music is more than relevant to them. It often brings joy to have discovered something fantastic which until then they had no idea was there.

we are all too busy listening to trash people clown stuff music by ICP and twisted! :)