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Old 05-08-2014, 03:11 AM   #1 (permalink)
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I was wondering... If pop music gets played by a symphonic orchestra, can you call it classical music? Where is the line from then on?
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Old 05-08-2014, 06:44 AM   #2 (permalink)
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No, it's still pop music, but a variation of it. Classical music is a very broad genre, but pop doesn't fall under that umbrella.
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Old 05-08-2014, 06:54 AM   #3 (permalink)
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but I suppose if the arrangement of such songs are partially rewritten, you are in some way composing a new song that can turn in to a classical piece, even if the original is a pop song?
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but I suppose if the arrangement of such songs are partially rewritten, you are in some way composing a new song that can turn in to a classical piece, even if the original is a pop song?
Why would changing the arrangements suddenly make it classical?

What about pop or rock songs that already have orchestral elements to them when they're originally written?
That doesn't suddenly make them classical music does it?

So the answer to your original question the answer is no, it's orchestral music.
If I were to play Sex Farm Woman by Spinal Tap on a mandolin that doesn't suddenly make it a folk song.
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I was wondering... If pop music gets played by a symphonic orchestra, can you call it classical music? Where is the line from then on?
What categorizes it is not so much the instruments used but by who wrote it. Since the song was written by either a professional songwriter or a one or more band members (and not by a composer for orchestra instrumentation) it falls under the mega-umbrella of Popular music. It's still a pop song, it's just that it has been transcribed to be played by an orchestra or for solo, duo, trio, quartet, etc etc performance.
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If I were to play Sex Farm Woman by Spinal Tap on a mandolin that doesn't suddenly make it a folk song.
No, the fact that "Sex Farm Woman" is a old Welsh mining song is what makes it a folk song.
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I would think if the arrangements are modified in such a way that the new 'classical' version becomes a piece of it's own, in some cases you can start to speak about a classical piece.

What Night of the Proms does: invite pop artists and have their music played by an orchestra (and choir) (notp.com), this clearly doesn't make it classical music.

But if you go one or a couple of bridges further than that, it must be possible to result in a classical piece, even if the original is a pop song?! (can anybody name examples of this last scenario?)
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So would you guys consider this classical?

Jose Feliciano - Flight of the Bumblebee
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@DwnWthVwls - Flight of the Bumblebee was composed in 1899 by the Russian Rimsky-Korsakov.
Originally it is supposed to be an orchestral interlude for the opera The Tale of Tsar Saltan.
To me this is indeed classical:



The version you posted is an arrangement of an orchestra work.
It's not originally composed for the guitar, so this is an interpretation.
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