Rishi Sunak says 'a man is a man and a woman is a woman'

Trollheart · 11-12-2023, 07:58 PM

If yourself and Aaron ever make it over here I'd be happy to meet you, however I would not rely on me to show you the sights: I'm the hermit the other hermits think is too much of a hermit. You'd certainly be welcome though.

And as for your retitling of your brain, remember it was the GREAT Library of Alexandria. I don't believe Herodicus, Homer and Sons, Insurers to the Rich and Powerful ever paid out on that policy though...

The Batlord · 11-12-2023, 08:37 PM

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Okay so most of the time you don't really need to know what's going on in one Batman or Superman title to read another one. They'll have continuity in common generally but won't actually connect with each other that much.

But if you're really that worried about it I'd use Comic Vine. The site has a search function but it's kind of annoying to use so I'd just Google f.ex. "Batman volume 2" or "legends of the dark knight volume 1". The issues will have the date published right under the cover.

And also not all comics are in the same continuity. It can be confusing but there's not really an easy way to know without Googling a specific thing. A rule of thumb though is if it's a monthly ongoing title then it's in continuity and if it's a graphic novel then there's a good chance it isn't.

Like, The Dark Knight Returns is not in continuity with the mainline Batman comics. It's in its own universe (literally, the universe has its own specific number) along with all the other Frank Miller-written Batman comics like the sequels DKRII AND DKRIII, All-Star-Batman, and Batman: Year One.

Except Batman: Year One is a graphic novel collected from the first few issues of the Batman ongoing monthly title when it was rebooted in the 80s so it is in continuity with both the Miller-verse comics and mainline comics even though they're not in continuity with each other.

And don't get me started on the ****ing reboots and what they mean for continuity. It's just honestly less of a hassle to worry about continuity all that much cause Chip Zdarsky, the current Batman writer, has not read every Batman comic ever and is just writing the story he wants to write.

The Batlord · 11-12-2023, 08:41 PM

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Oh well we may be a load of backward. as Batty would say and has said, island monkeys, but you'll be glad to know few if any Irish people supported that twat and nobody cared about him.

And by the way, Alexandria is a beautiful name (did you know the world's largest library was there in anitquity, before it got burned down?) and searching through my bookshelves I definitely find you in the non-fiction section.

No, what I've said is that the Brits have the more important island so they get to be island monkeys. You are a potato monkey.

SGR · 11-12-2023, 08:57 PM

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No, what I've said is that the Brits have the more important island so they get to be island monkeys. You are a potato monkey.

*spud monkey

Trollheart · 11-13-2023, 08:38 AM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord

Okay so most of the time you don't really need to know what's going on in one Batman or Superman title to read another one. They'll have continuity in common generally but won't actually connect with each other that much.

But if you're really that worried about it I'd use Comic Vine. The site has a search function but it's kind of annoying to use so I'd just Google f.ex. "Batman volume 2" or "legends of the dark knight volume 1". The issues will have the date published right under the cover.

And also not all comics are in the same continuity. It can be confusing but there's not really an easy way to know without Googling a specific thing. A rule of thumb though is if it's a monthly ongoing title then it's in continuity and if it's a graphic novel then there's a good chance it isn't.

Like, The Dark Knight Returns is not in continuity with the mainline Batman comics. It's in its own universe (literally, the universe has its own specific number) along with all the other Frank Miller-written Batman comics like the sequels DKRII AND DKRIII, All-Star-Batman, and Batman: Year One.

Except Batman: Year One is a graphic novel collected from the first few issues of the Batman ongoing monthly title when it was rebooted in the 80s so it is in continuity with both the Miller-verse comics and mainline comics even though they're not in continuity with each other.

And don't get me started on the ****ing reboots and what they mean for continuity. It's just honestly less of a hassle to worry about continuity all that much cause Chip Zdarsky, the current Batman writer, has not read every Batman comic ever and is just writing the story he wants to write.

Okay that helps a lot thanks. I wasn't sure if I had to read them in sequence, like some of the Dredd titles or whatever. How about Sandman?

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No, what I've said is that the Brits have the more important island so they get to be island monkeys. You are a potato monkey.

You're right I forgot. How hilarious was it when I used the term island monkey and Marie thought I was being racist?

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*spud monkey

Sorry; never gonna catch on, no matter how many times you say it.

The Batlord · 11-13-2023, 10:24 AM

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Okay that helps a lot thanks. I wasn't sure if I had to read them in sequence, like some of the Dredd titles or whatever. How about Sandman?

You're right I forgot. How hilarious was it when I used the term island monkey and Marie thought I was being racist?

Sorry; never gonna catch on, no matter how many times you say it.

If you just want to read the Sandman that everyone talks about, the Vertigo comic from the 80s and 90s by Neal Gaiman, you don't have to read anything else. It's all in continuity but the Vertigo comic is its own thing starring a completely different character and the earlier stuff probably won't even help you.

Also, if you want to read Batman or Superman then maybe don't start with the stuff from the 30s and 40s. Comics from back then aren't exactly the most friendly to a modern reader as they were written entirely for children from that time, and comic storytelling has evolved a whole lot.

Trollheart · 11-13-2023, 11:01 AM

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If you just want to read the Sandman that everyone talks about, the Vertigo comic from the 80s and 90s by Neal Gaiman, you don't have to read anything else. It's all in continuity but the Vertigo comic is its own thing starring a completely different character and the earlier stuff probably won't even help you.

Also, if you want to read Batman or Superman then maybe don't start with the stuff from the 30s and 40s. Comics from back then aren't exactly the most friendly to a modern reader as they were written entirely for children from that time, and comic storytelling has evolved a whole lot.

Oh yeah I had no intention of going back to the 30s/40s era of Batman. I'm talking mostly from the 80s onwards. As for Sandman, I have the TPBs so I probably have the full main story then? These series do get confusing though, with sequels and prequels and bloody alternative universes and timelines. Wasn't like that in my day.

Oh wait: it was.

The Batlord · 11-13-2023, 12:25 PM

For Batman I'd start with the Dennis O'Neal/Neal Adams run from the 70s. That's basically the dividing line between campy Batman and modern Batman. Real good ****.

And Sandman does have a spinoff called Death that's supposed to be worth your time.

Trollheart · 11-13-2023, 02:46 PM

Trollheart · 11-13-2023, 02:52 PM

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For Batman I'd start with the Dennis O'Neal/Neal Adams run from the 70s. That's basically the dividing line between campy Batman and modern Batman. Real good ****.

And Sandman does have a spinoff called Death that's supposed to be worth your time.

Okay thanks for that. I'll start reading soon so if you want I'll let you know what I think of them. Or alternatively, I know I can just **** off. Either is good.

Edit: Oh, and while we're at it, I hear a lot of praise for Preacher?

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