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Old 03-24-2018, 08:49 AM   #10931 (permalink)
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Just watching the News Hour, the next National Security Advisor, John Bolton, is very hawkish and advocated first strikes against Iran and N. Korea. I predict that America will use nuclear weapons over the next few months. Besides closing military bases and applying sanctions I’m not sure how the world will react or if WWIII can be avoided.

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It's resurfaced in just about every Norwegian paper the last week, like in this local paper for the town of Stavanger:
https://www.aftenbladet.no/innenriks...vekker-oppsikt

I haven't seen much in the international press, and was actually quite surprised that AFP even mentioned it in passing, since it's Norwegian politics and the incidence happened 21 years ago.



This dude is currently the main political head of our judicial system and police. That's a scandal. Even a regular tory would be better.



Absolutely horrific. The empire is indeed in its last death throes. Desparate to keep their chilly grip on the world, some of its top snakes are now threatening nuclear first strikes, while accusing smaller nations of being threats to world peace. The US leadership, who destroy countries while stashing their own pockets fat with cash, have no right to rule on this planet. Progressive forces all over the world - and especially in the U.S. - must unite in the name of peace and democracy against the hawks who push for war. U.S. imperialism will be destroyed, this is historically inevitable, but it's up to the people whether that will be through grand nuclear suicide or social revolution.

Everyone who has the opportunity should to to Washington D.C. the 14th of April for this demonstration. If you're unable, get in touch with organizers in your own area. This is the time for all peace-loving people to take to the streets.

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I get the feeling you'll probably be selling timeshares to middle class workers in a few years.
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Old 03-24-2018, 09:37 AM   #10932 (permalink)
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Just the sheer act of unnecessary violence makes him unfit to be minister of justice. But his racism makes it worse, imo.
I’m sure you’re right. My fear is if Norway doesn’t protect its cultural identity by maintaining some degree of homogeneity the world is going to lose something precious. All of Scandinavia is special because you’ve modeled a way of life that’s relatively sustainable. You don’t have to absorb the rest of the world. If they want to live in a country like Norway they need to create one where they’re at. You guys have educated yourselves and adopted peaceful ways. And that’s with Russia eager to get up your ass. You’ve worked hard to make Norway what it is. I hate to see you lose it. Without being hateful I encourage you to protect what you’ve accomplished.
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Old 03-24-2018, 10:21 AM   #10933 (permalink)
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I get the feeling you'll probably be selling timeshares to middle class workers in a few years.
He doesn't have elph's capitalist go-getter personality though.
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Old 03-24-2018, 10:25 AM   #10934 (permalink)
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and our representative make up doesn't reflect the majority will
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Old 03-24-2018, 10:30 AM   #10935 (permalink)
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Any chance of a thread rename to 'The News Thread'? It's not a big deal I'm just asking tbh. I ask because we discuss the news but I can believe 90% of the stories that get posted.
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He doesn't have elph's capitalist go-getter personality though.
he's already in college that's the actual difference
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Old 03-24-2018, 12:07 PM   #10937 (permalink)
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66 + 52 = $118 Billion added to the budget.

That's about $400 each for every man, woman, and child currently living in the USA.

****, $400 would buy me about 17 gallons of rum.
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Old 03-24-2018, 01:35 PM   #10938 (permalink)
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I’m sure you’re right. My fear is if Norway doesn’t protect its cultural identity by maintaining some degree of homogeneity the world is going to lose something precious. All of Scandinavia is special because you’ve modeled a way of life that’s relatively sustainable. You don’t have to absorb the rest of the world. If they want to live in a country like Norway they need to create one where they’re at. You guys have educated yourselves and adopted peaceful ways. And that’s with Russia eager to get up your ass. You’ve worked hard to make Norway what it is. I hate to see you lose it. Without being hateful I encourage you to protect what you’ve accomplished.
The welfare state is not just for white people, man. Scandinavian countries have a high standard of living because of favorable circumstances in the global economy (Norway found oil when the oil price was high) and an organized labor movement. The real threat to Norwegian society is not immigration, but Tories, and the European Union softening up labor laws.

And I mostly don't give a **** about preserving cultural homogeneity in Norway. The only reason one can talk about ethnic homogeneity in Norway (and Sweden!) is because Norwegians and Swedes colonized Sápmi and brutally assimilated native people. Besides, Norwegians have always been in contact with different cultures, including in Europe and the Middle East. The notion of a "pure Nordic identity" doesn't go further back than the 1800s.

But all this talk of preserving cultures and ethnicities is a digression from what really matters. The capitalist rulers want us to fight along ethnic and cultural lines. We need to leave aside those differences, toss away cultural chauvinism and unite on the basis of class struggle. In the long run, Norwegian workers, Polish workers and Somali workers have the same interests - an end to capitalism and imperialism. I know plenty of immigrants who are committed to preserving the welfare state, and Norwegians who are actively tearing it down and making society worse for all of us.

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Old 03-24-2018, 03:17 PM   #10939 (permalink)
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it's a curiously suggestive thought that the reason Norway does so well is their homogenous culture

he's not talking about white people migrating there when he says "rest of the world" I don't think
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Old 03-24-2018, 03:44 PM   #10940 (permalink)
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it's a curiously suggestive thought that the reason Norway does so well is their homogenous culture

he's not talking about white people migrating there when he says "rest of the world" I don't think
It's funny how some people will take a socialist position one minute and then propagate a racist talking point the next minute.

When it comes to Norwegian work life: it is true that increased work immigration the last fifteen-twenty years has challenged wages and working conditions in some trades, due to the increased competition from cheap labor. This has especially been the case in building and construction, where companies more often hire immigrants (increasingly through casualized contracts) and give them lower wages than their organized, Norwegian counterparts. A lot of the time this is done illegally. Tories both in the Labor and Conservative party have ignored it. They're in love with the European Union, and don't care about what happens on the workplaces, or about the working conditions of immigrants. A new term, "social dumping", has been coined to describe the ruthless exploitation of immigrant labor in Norwegian workplaces. Bourgeois politicians either shove it under the carpet, talk nice about it and do nothing, or blame it on the immigrants themselves.

- First off: none of this is the fault of immigrants themselves. It is the fault of the companies that exploit cheap immigrant labor for profit, and the politicians that side with the capitalists.
- The vast majority of work immigrants that come to Norway are white and European. Most of them come from Sweden and Poland.

Tories and populists spread the often-time racist myth about brown people coming here to take "Norwegian" jobs and ruin working conditions. It is simply not true, and perpetuating such myths will never do anything to improve the lives of working people, no matter how much one talks about "preserving Norwegian society" or whatever.
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