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Chula Vista 05-29-2018 04:38 PM

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Originally Posted by DwnWthVwls (Post 1955848)
you've always disliked me

Not true. At all. We started out on a good foot.

DwnWthVwls 05-29-2018 04:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 1955852)
Wait, who's the person in this conversation that sounds like that? Because...uh...

You and Jans?

Frownland 05-29-2018 04:44 PM

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Originally Posted by DwnWthVwls (Post 1955860)
You and Jans?

Got it. Sounded like you were describing yourself since you're the only one rejecting that something is a stereotype here.

My guess is that you think I take it more seriously than I actually do. It's a ****ing sitcom star. Let em all rot.

DwnWthVwls 05-29-2018 04:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 1955856)
They were planning on cancelling the show long before this and knew that this would be a socially acceptable way to execute that than the ambiguous reason of her not being good PR or having a sustainable fan base.

Oh, so you were just being a smartass, haha. I did answer you, idk.

Frownland 05-29-2018 04:46 PM

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Originally Posted by DwnWthVwls (Post 1955863)
Oh, so you were just being a smartass, haha. I did answer you, idk.

Not really, you detailed how Roseanne was an exception in the stereotype that she utilized.

DwnWthVwls 05-29-2018 04:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 1955862)
Got it. Sounded like you were describing yourself since you're the only one rejecting that something is a stereotype here.

My guess is that you think I take it more seriously than I actually do. It's a ****ing sitcom star. Let em all rot.

I never rejected the stereotype. I was criticizing the tweet's racial context in a vacuum. I don't watch TV or participate in social media, how the hell am I supposed to know she's a long time racist? My entire point was the media can cherry pick racism from nearly any derogatory comments and takes full advantage of it, which I find massively insincere (and I know you do to).

Youre the one with the "I dont see it" and "Maybe its easier for racists to see"...

Janszoon 05-29-2018 04:51 PM

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Originally Posted by DwnWthVwls (Post 1955869)
I never rejected the stereotype. I was criticizing the tweet's racial context in a vacuum. I don't watch TV or participate in social media, how the hell am I supposed to know she's a long time racist? My entire point was the media can cherry pick racism from nearly any derogatory comments and takes full advantage of it, which I find massively insincere (and I know you do to).

Youre the one with the "I dont see it" and "Maybe its easier for racists to see"...

What is "context in a vacuum"?

DwnWthVwls 05-29-2018 04:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 1955867)
Not really, you detailed how Roseanne was an exception in the stereotype that she utilized.

No, youre missing the nuance: someone actually looking like the thing they are being compared to versus someone being compared to something to dehumanize them.

One is a joke/insult that has a sense of reality behind it and the other is obviously and intentionally racist

Frownland 05-29-2018 04:52 PM

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Originally Posted by DwnWthVwls (Post 1955869)
I never rejected the stereotype.

You just spent a whole page saying that Roseanne comparing the whoeverthe**** to a monkey wasn't based in a stereotype but on a real observation.

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I was criticizing the tweet's racial context in a vacuum. I don't watch TV or participate in social media, how the hell am I supposed to know she's a long time racist?
Google

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My entire point was the media can cherry pick racism from nearly any derogatory comments and takes full advantage of it, which I find massively insincere (and I know you do to).
Yep.

Here's a point: approaching situations with that kind of thinking will lead to you denying obviously racist things because of their association to the media.

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Youre the one with the "I dont see it"
Would you prefer me to lie?

DwnWthVwls 05-29-2018 04:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Janszoon (Post 1955870)
What is "context in a vacuum"?

That tweet. Those words.. nothing else, is it racist or just a lame joke?

You're ideology says: No black person can ever be compared to a monkey because it has a history of being a derogatory slur used against black people.

Mine says: If someone looks like something, regardless of the history, it's okay to call them out on it.

You're basically arguing that we can't call a grindy Hitler if he looks like Hitler, because history, and I'm calling bullshit.


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