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DwnWthVwls 05-29-2018 05:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Janszoon (Post 1955883)
How is that "context in a vacuum"? If it's in a vacuum, there is no context.


Actually, what I was trying to do initially was explain the context to you since you legitimately seemed to not understand. Then I realized you were being disingenuous so any kind of serious conversation was a waste of time.

But by all means, continue inventing a position for me and attacking it. Seems like a worthwhile pursuit.

Yeah, youre right, that was poor wording.

Or you could point out what you think I'm being disingenuous about and we can have a grown up conversation. Pouting in the corner won't change my mind, which I'm always very open to do.

The position I invented was how I read it. Feel free to correct me. It's pretty hard responding to multiple people at once as quickly as possible.

Frownland 05-29-2018 05:08 PM

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Originally Posted by DwnWthVwls (Post 1955886)
Or you could point out what you think I'm being disingenuous about and we can have a grown up conversation.

Presuming that racism can't exist in anything but a cartoonish form.

The Batlord 05-29-2018 05:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 1955887)
Presuming that racism can't exist in anything but a cartoonish form.

I think it's more eye rolling at the public reaction to the tweet since the public generally elicit eye rolling.

DwnWthVwls 05-29-2018 05:12 PM

I think I've been here and involved with these discussions long enough for you to know that's not how I feel. Now who's being disingenuous?

Janszoon 05-29-2018 05:12 PM

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Originally Posted by DwnWthVwls (Post 1955886)
Yeah, your right, that was poor wording.

Or you could point out what you think I'm being disingenuous about and we can have a grown up conversation. Pouting in the corner won't change my mind, which I'm always very open to do.

The position I invented was how I read it. Feel free to correct me. It's pretty hard responding to multiple people at once as quickly as possible.

You're not interested in a grownup conversion, buddy. That's the issue.

OccultHawk 05-29-2018 05:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Janszoon (Post 1955885)
Are you going to answer the question?

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So do you think racism is a great idea or what?
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It tickles me.
WTF more do you want? I’m not dodging your question.

DwnWthVwls 05-29-2018 05:18 PM

Let's rewind to the part where I asked how the tweet is racist, and you and Frown both respond with some version of "because she's black". That says nothing about if the comment is actually racist. Pointing out that Roseanne has a history of racism and when considering things I wasn't the tweet is likely racist is a much better point than "because shes black".

I'm always open for adult discussions. Seems like you're just being stubborn because I annoyed you.

The Batlord 05-29-2018 05:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Janszoon (Post 1955890)
You're not interested in a grownup conversion, buddy. That's the issue.

Nah, that's not DWV. He's a wanker for many reasons, but not wanting to have intellectual discussions is not one of them.

Frownland 05-29-2018 05:19 PM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord (Post 1955888)
I think it's more eye rolling at the public reaction to the tweet since the public generally elicit eye rolling.

By taking up the opposite eyeroll worthy stance that racism is virtually nonexistent?

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Originally Posted by DwnWthVwls (Post 1955889)
I think I've been here and involved with these discussions long enough for you to know that's not how I feel. Now who's being disingenuous?

You were suggesting that Roseanne was not being racist because she was simply being observational. That implies that people with racist instincts are not racist if they more subtle about it.

Frownland 05-29-2018 05:21 PM

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Originally Posted by DwnWthVwls (Post 1955893)
Let's rewind to the part where I asked how the tweet is racist, and you and Frown both respond with some version of "because she's black". That says nothing about if the comment is actually racist. Pointing out that Roseanne has a history of racism and when considering things I wasn't the tweet is likely racist is a much better point than "because shes black".

I'm always open for adult discussions. Seems like you're just being stubborn because I annoyed you.

1. I said that it was the history of the term. In a vacuum, blacks don't have a longstanding history of being the victims of racism so I couldn't have said that it was because she was black. Boom, gotcha bitch!
2. It's literally dehumanizing. Any other questions?


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