The ACA put maximum caps on certain aspects of insurance company spending, including executive salaries. The new plan removes those caps.

I don't doubt that. The industry still doubled in value over the past six years though.

Health insurance should not be a for profit industry. Our forefathers should have socialized it a long time ago - like the post office.

Agreed.

Tentatively agreed.

Totally agree.

Now there's one for the record books. :beer:

:p:

I agree with almost all your politics. I just can't express myself correctly because I go off the deep end constantly. Drugs and poor psychiatric care.

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ok so like this has been a pretty hot topic of conversation in canada recently and there was a huge protest in my city today. the tl;dr version of the story is that a cop found a cab driver with his pants down in his cab with an intoxicated unconscious woman who was also half-dressed. there was no evidence that sexual intercourse had taken place, but obviously it looks quite bad to be caught in this situation.

the big controversy has less do to with this, and more with the judge who made the statement:

now maybe i'm a ****ed up individual, but i think the outrage over his comment is ludicrous. there is obviously a line of being drunk and able to give consent, and a line where you are unable (considering she was unconcious, i have to believe she was probably unable but that's kinda neither here nor there.)

anyway interested in hearing thoughts on this issue

Define "drunk".

i mean i guess that's the biggest issue innit.

if we go by the first definition google gives

affected by alcohol to the extent of losing control of one's faculties or behavior.
"he was so drunk he lurched from wall to wall"
synonyms: intoxicated, inebriated, inebriate, impaired, drunken, tipsy, under the influence; More
antonyms: sober

then a drunk person probably cannot give consent. i think the line is drawn perhaps between someone who is drinking vs someone who is drunk? the biggest issue with what the judge said was not his message but his wording, or so it seems.

Totally ****ed up.

I'd put it in the same category as statutory rape as far as defining consent. They may think that they're more than capable of making that decision, but the reality of the situation is that they're being taken advantage of.

ok so you go out for drinks with someone, she's clearly more buzzed than you but you're a little out of it too and you make your move. stuff goes down and you can see you're in, do you not proceed to have sex with her because she's drunk?

i dont disagree with you btw, i just think the reaction provoked by what the judge said is being done without much thought. i think the real outrage should be over the ruling.

The whole situation changes when both parties are drunk. It's really a question of how drunk you both are at that point. If she's clearly too drunk to control her actions it's a definite no no.

This women was unconscious, right?

I've taken home and ****ed some very drunk women from bars. Many that I bought several drinks for with that in mind. "Let's see who can pound this beer the fastest". **** like that. None of them ever passed out before I could **** them but some started puking so I gave up on it. If they puked at my place I'd try to make them comfortable and leave them un****ed. One woman I felt up her titties outside the bar and tried to get her to give me head in an alley. She refused so we went back in the bar. Later she asked me to go home with her but it was so late and I was so whiskey dicked I declined. She later complained to her friends that I was overly aggressive. I was like whatever bitch. Lots of women go to bars looking for free drinks and drunk one night stands. That's not only consensual it was their plan from the get-go. You can't **** em if they pass out though. That's rape. I did **** one passed out chick but she was my steady girl for a long time. She didn't care when I told her but some of my friends acted like it was some kind of big deal. We ****ed everyday. Whatever.

If she's not puking or passed out she's still in the game. I might be stone cold sober. The **** does that matter?

holy what

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You really don't see anything wrong with taking advantage of someone who is unable to make decisions for themselves?

If I can walk and talk I can make decisions. I assume the same goes for everyone else. I know your generation likes to work out a signed agreement before ****ing but back in the day kids used to just ****.

Would you let a drunk person drive?

Buncha pussies. Who gives a **** about other human beings? Just get down and **** if you wanna.

That's how you sound. Sometimes the reason behind things changing actually makes sense.

**** yes. I don't give a ****. I never drink and drive myself but I bum rides off drunks all the time.

Your generation is so puritanical. You do realize that many women set out from the get go to get wasted and have cheap sex? Do I have a right to say I was raped if I get drunk and **** someone? I tend to get as wasted as possible. Pills and weed on top of the booze. Is it like oh **** she raped me? Come on!

Some people have sex on purpose so rape is okay. Got it.

Dude. I ain't never ****ed anyone who said no.

So your saying you never one night standed with a woman who was completely sloshed?

Good work mate. I still think that taking advantage of someone who wouldn't **** you without being unable to make their own decisions sounds like a nifty tool in the rapey belt.

Not on a one night stand, no. I've never had a go at that statutory rape game either.

I agree with frown yo, if she's wasted, don't take advantage of that situation. And vice versa.

If you think a drunk woman is the same as a minor you need a touch of feminism son. A drunk woman should be able to get some dick same as a drunk man has a right to some consenting pussy.

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So a woman shouldn't be able to go out get drunk and have cheap sex with a stranger if she wants? Save it for ****ing church. I'm not hearing that.

****able drunk: three drinks onward but not puking or passed out

your right, im gunna have to really think about this. its a tough one.

OH

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I'd say it comes a long time before puking. Really depends on the person as far as numbers go.

The guideline is simple. If she says no or resists even the slightest bit it's game off. Even if she tries to change her mind. She's gotta be fully committed to it start to finish. Thems the rules.

Look im a total whore when I'm out, and personally, im fine with a girl taking advantage of me, at that point, I almost certainly don't give a ****. As long as I'm wearing a condom, alls good. If a girl seems like shes too drunk and should be sent home, then im gonna say that and not allow anything to happen. I usually never have these cases though. every girl or guy i've been with has been chill, make sure u got a condom and all is good, the worst that can happen is that you didn't enjoy yourself, just don't force yourself on each other.

I know what you're saying. Like you can tell she's an inexperienced drinker and trying to show out while she's smashed. That's bad form to go after that and it's also almost impossible to pull because she's going to be with a little gaggle of cockblocking females. I never chased after that ****.

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Death threats :D