The Wow I Can't Believe That News Story Thread

Key · 07-19-2018, 09:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Exo

To alleviate a possible response from some of our red members. I want them to response to the issue not the response.

Boring.

**Exo** · 07-19-2018, 09:43 AM

The psychology behind it fascinates me. There is nothing Trump supporters love more, besides Trump, than defending him. Flying off the handle all Chula-like, even though well intended, only suspends actual discussion because now we're focused on the response. I could point to the whole years worth of awful Trump sh*t but that would muddy the waters.

The White House is willing to let a hostile foreign power with history of f*cked up sh*t question US citizens. Effectively throwing our own people to the wolves.

That's your winning hand. Stop playing cards and focus on the winning hand.

rubber soul · 07-19-2018, 09:46 AM

I don't think Trump was what Reagan envisioned when he wanted to bring the old days back.

Key · 07-19-2018, 09:53 AM

Anyone that supports Trump at this point is either wilfully ignorant or just plain moronic. I mean...you look at the facts and that's a compliment. Not all Republicans are bad tho lemme say that.

rubber soul · 07-19-2018, 10:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Kiiii

Anyone that supports Trump at this point is either wilfully ignorant or just plain moronic. I mean...you look at the facts and that's a compliment. Not all Republicans are bad tho lemme say that.

No, they're not. Our Governor Hogan has been very critical of Trump and not just in an election year (Maryland is one of the bluest states in the nation), And of course there is McCain and Graham among others who have been quite critical, especially with the Russia dealings.

What really gets me is how the religious right has embraced Trump. He holds absolutely none of their values yet they praise him like he's the second coming of Jesus Christ. Maybe they're right about the anti-Christ but maybe they're the ones that are being fooled.

**Frownland** · 07-19-2018, 10:10 AM

I can't wait for John McCain to croak.

Anteater · 07-19-2018, 03:46 PM

Sorry Exo, but I disagree with you about Trump. The media's general hysteria with all things Trump related is a far bigger issue than the man himself.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-44892889

Trump never said he was going to do a trade with Russia of any kind. Trump did say that Putin made the offer and he thought it could be a good deal depending on the conditions (as in, no torture involved), but then all these media outlets ran with a story about Trump agreeing to it before anyone could get a word in edgewise.

We live in an era where stories, reactions and information travels so quickly that the story's relevancy is often made moot once we get more clarity or the situation develops a bit more. But because of the media's ADD, nobody ever gets the story "right" the first time and instead the market gets flooded with misinformation.

**Frownland** · 07-19-2018, 03:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Anteater

Sorry Exo, but I disagree with you about Trump. The media's general hysteria with all things Trump related is a far bigger issue than the man himself.

As if Trump isn't constantly exacerbating that hysteria.

I think that the current media's overall reflection of late stage capitalism and America's culture war is more worrisome than their Trump hysteria (which is, in fact, very real).

DwnWthVwls · 07-19-2018, 04:07 PM

I have a dream that one day black and white, men and women, penis and vagina will come together and turn all the snowflakes yellow. Now that is a culture war i can get behind.

Chula Vista · 07-19-2018, 05:10 PM

But Trump was considering allowing Putin to interrogate American intelligence officers. By accounts the offer was made during their behind doors meeting. It was only after the senate voted 98-0 against it that Trump did another flip flop.

Doesn't help him that he's publicly bashing every news agency except Fox as FAKE NEWS over and over again. Did you know that some of his ardent supporters have taken to verbally assaulting the press pools (except Fox) at his rallies?

Saw an interesting interview with a former white house stenographer. She was saying that previous administrations had a stenographer present pretty much all the time, so that if the president was called out on something he could simply reply "check the transcripts". Trump isn't using one the majority of the time. That way he can just cry FAKE NEWS when he gets called out.

He's simply his own worst enemy. The press is taking way too much heat for simply reporting on the things he does, says, or what their inside sources find out.

07-19-2018, 09:43 AM	#12972 (permalink)
Exo All day jazz and biscuits Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: NJ Posts: 7,354	The psychology behind it fascinates me. There is nothing Trump supporters love more, besides Trump, than defending him. Flying off the handle all Chula-like, even though well intended, only suspends actual discussion because now we're focused on the response. I could point to the whole years worth of awful Trump sht but that would muddy the waters. The White House is willing to let a hostile foreign power with history of fcked up sht question US citizens. Effectively throwing our own people to the wolves. That's your winning hand. Stop playing cards and focus on the winning hand. __________________ LastFM SUPREME POO BAH MODERATOR EXTRAORDINAIRE*

07-19-2018, 10:10 AM	#12976 (permalink)
Frownland SOPHIE FOREVER Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: East of the Southern North American West Posts: 35,541	I can't wait for John McCain to croak. __________________ Studies show that when a given norm is changed in the face of the unchanging, the remaining contradictions will parallel the truth. d e a f b o x

07-19-2018, 05:10 PM	#12980 (permalink)
Chula Vista Toasted Poster Join Date: Oct 2014 Location: SoCal by way of Boston Posts: 11,332	But Trump was considering allowing Putin to interrogate American intelligence officers. By accounts the offer was made during their behind doors meeting. It was only after the senate voted 98-0 against it that Trump did another flip flop. Doesn't help him that he's publicly bashing every news agency except Fox as FAKE NEWS over and over again. Did you know that some of his ardent supporters have taken to verbally assaulting the press pools (except Fox) at his rallies? Saw an interesting interview with a former white house stenographer. She was saying that previous administrations had a stenographer present pretty much all the time, so that if the president was called out on something he could simply reply "check the transcripts". Trump isn't using one the majority of the time. That way he can just cry FAKE NEWS when he gets called out. He's simply his own worst enemy. The press is taking way too much heat for simply reporting on the things he does, says, or what their inside sources find out. __________________ “The fact that we live at the bottom of a deep gravity well, on the surface of a gas covered planet going around a nuclear fireball 90 million miles away and think this to be normal is obviously some indication of how skewed our perspective tends to be.”

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07-19-2018, 09:53 AM	#12974 (permalink)
Key . Join Date: Dec 2010 Posts: 13,153	Anyone that supports Trump at this point is either wilfully ignorant or just plain moronic. I mean...you look at the facts and that's a compliment. Not all Republicans are bad tho lemme say that.