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Old 08-21-2018, 11:41 AM   #13921 (permalink)
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what?
Tribal paranoia.
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Old 08-21-2018, 11:41 AM   #13922 (permalink)
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It's not hard to understand what I was going for.
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Old 08-21-2018, 11:42 AM   #13923 (permalink)
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if you hold this position that all bets are off when it comes to fascism I think it's easy to make the argument that it's already at our doorstep and thus certain actions of Antifa are justified
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But he didn't say that.
I don't know if I think we're there yet. But if I did, I think I'd find some methods justified that I wouldn't normally get behind.
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Old 08-21-2018, 11:42 AM   #13924 (permalink)
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Now that you've explained what you're going for, I'm more confused.
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Old 08-21-2018, 11:42 AM   #13925 (permalink)
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I wouldn't say that was the primary reason, no

but even if it were, it's a false equivalency

"I'll vote Trump to not get a Democrat"

just not the same as "I'll punch a Nazi to resist literal fascism"
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Old 08-21-2018, 11:48 AM   #13926 (permalink)
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I don't know if I think we're there yet.
fair enough, fascism is not something where one day you've got yourself some sort of democracy then the next it's autocracy, it's a gradual erosion and it'd be hard to pinpoint definitively when one is "there yet"

not that I necessarily support the strategies of Antifa

I just understand the motives
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I just felt that there had to be some form of acceptance toward Trump's behavior specifically on the right side. Oherwise they would've slammed him down after his first racially insensitive or otherwise commentary. I'm not saying I know that definitively which is why I formed my initial point as a question.

I was relating that to how some could accept the violence as a form of political agenda. Even though it's bad.
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I just felt that there had to be some form of acceptance toward Trump's behavior specifically on the right side. Oherwise they would've slammed him down after his first racially insensitive or otherwise commentary. I'm not saying I know that definitively which is why I formed my initial point as a question.
So...did you not pay attention from the time that Trump started running to the time that he got elected?
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So...did you not pay attention from the time that Trump started running to the time that he got elected?
Yes. His election based on hateed and whatever else.
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I only visit some sections of the internet and don't meet Americans day to day since I don't live there, but I never see any right wing Americans criticize Trump no matter what he does.
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