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Old 08-21-2018, 11:54 AM   #13931 (permalink)
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I just felt that there had to be some form of acceptance toward Trump's behavior specifically on the right side. Oherwise they would've slammed him down after his first racially insensitive or otherwise commentary. I'm not saying I know that definitively which is why I formed my initial point as a question.

I was relating that to how some could accept the violence as a form of political agenda. Even though it's bad.
the right thinks he's "telling it as it is" (aka "Racism is correct")

I think some if not most of the establishment leadership of the GOP is making concessions to try and save their political career or actually announcing retirement ala Paul Ryan

but not really the Republican voter base
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Old 08-21-2018, 11:55 AM   #13932 (permalink)
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Yes. His election based on hateed and whatever else.
My point was that he got quite a bit of flak from both sides before he was elected.

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I only visit some sections of the internet and don't meet Americans day to day since I don't live there, but I never see any right wing Americans criticize Trump no matter what he does.
Unfortunately this is accurate. Partisan hacks ain't never gonna point the finger at someone on their side.
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Old 08-21-2018, 11:58 AM   #13933 (permalink)
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the right thinks he's "telling it as it is" (aka "Racism is correct")

I think some if not most of the establishment leadership of the GOP is making concessions to try and save their political career or actually announcing retirement ala Paul Ryan

but not really the Republican voter base
Right. Which in and of itself is a form of acceptance toward his behavior. And yes frown, I do agree that there was a lot of flak but ultimately the acceptance of his behavior is what got him elected. The right side waited until afterwards to speak out. A bit too late tbh.
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Right. Which in and of itself is a form of acceptance toward his behavior.
it wasn't a begrudging acceptance

he blew the other primary opponents away because how openly *ahem* deplorable his rhetoric was
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it wasn't a begrudging acceptance

he blew the other primary opponents away because how openly *ahem* deplorable his rhetoric was
That's fair. Though simultaneously I don't think people were even expecting him to win so I suppose that could have something to do with it.
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And yes frown, I do agree that there was a lot of flak but ultimately the acceptance of his behavior is what got him elected.
So if you criticize something for two years straight, that's considered acceptance? Should they have just shot him?

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What? They were speaking out against him throughout the primaries and softened on him after he was elected, if anything.

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he blew the other primary opponents away because how openly *ahem* deplorable his rhetoric was
Along with the same exasperation with the establishment that mobilized Bernie's base.
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So if you criticize something for two years straight, that's considered acceptance? Should they have just shot him?



What? They were speaking out against him throughout the primaries and softened on him after he was elected, if anything.
Not everybody was criticizing him. Hell a large percentage didn't criticize him.
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tfw frown is arguing with Ki too, but with the exact opposite position as me

what are we defining as "The Right"

the establishment GOP representative on CNN would do a song and dance about how "we don't condone the rhetoric, but jobs jobs freedom blah"

but the voter base of the right thought "finally someone who says what we're all thinking"
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Not everybody was criticizing him. Hell a large percentage didn't criticize him.
The GOP gave him a lot of **** until he got elected. You're just believing what you want to now.
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the establishment GOP representative on CNN would do a song and dance about how "we don't condone the rhetoric, but jobs jobs freedom blah"
lol elph watches CNN. Better yet, he watches CNN to see what the conservatives are thinking.

Would you trust the "liberal" pundits on Fox?
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