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Old 08-31-2018, 03:17 PM   #14231 (permalink)
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The Federalist? Really?



Has any politician ever been brought before more Senate and House committees, hell bent on finding something, anything, to charge them with, but yet time after time they come up empty and dragging their tails between their legs when all is said and done?

If someone is a crook - prove it. Otherwise STFU.
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Old 08-31-2018, 03:32 PM   #14232 (permalink)
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Just gonna bookmark this in case Mueller doesn't charge Trump with anything.
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Old 08-31-2018, 06:21 PM   #14233 (permalink)
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You and a few others here also have a difficult time wrapping your minds around a very simple fact: if you want to put Trump away for something, it would be helpful if his political opposition weren't complicit in similar crimes.
it's actually completely irrelevant what crimes have or have not been committed by Hillary Clinton
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Old 08-31-2018, 06:26 PM   #14234 (permalink)
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b-but, Hillary did it first!

It's allright. There's enough jail cells to go around.
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Old 08-31-2018, 06:30 PM   #14235 (permalink)
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Has any politician ever been brought before more Senate and House committees, hell bent on finding something, anything, to charge them with, but yet time after time they come up empty and dragging their tails between their legs when all is said and done?
I imagine this is because Clinton was a lawyer and is quite astute, it's not likely she ever broke the law in a way that she couldn't plausibly deny

however you almost have to bet that Apeman Trump probably still wouldn't understand the law he broke even after being found guilty
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Old 08-31-2018, 06:36 PM   #14236 (permalink)
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I've seen stories from legit places like RealClearPolitics, Forbes or even NPR that contradict the mainstream narrative in some way. Hence why I tend to take the positions that I do.
wait I thought these stories were hard to google though

I still don't consider Forbes legit because it's all opinion pieces when it comes to politics
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Old 08-31-2018, 07:32 PM   #14237 (permalink)
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arent all politics opinions?
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things happen in politics that can be reported on
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Old 08-31-2018, 09:45 PM   #14239 (permalink)
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it's actually completely irrelevant what crimes have or have not been committed by Hillary Clinton
They ran for the same office and have both been accused of collusion (Trump directly with Russia, Clinton and the DNC with Ukraine and firms like Fusion GPS who used Russian sources). They are also both accused of money laundering. The public doesn't want a consistent standard that applies to everyone: they just want their side to win because its entertaining. Jonathan Haidt's observations on tribalism are my biggest reference point for how things are today, but what Clinton does isn't irrelevant. Just as Trump could set a precedent for allowable behavior, she is responsible for lowering the bar for a whole separate demographic.

The bigger problem, however, is that at the end of the day it doesn't really seem like these proceedings matter because nobody of real prominence go to jail for their wrongdoings. Pence will come out on top even if the Democrats get their way on everything else. Nixon and Clinton both got their fair share of the spotlight for their respective ****ups but still basically walked away with zero consequences.
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Or maybe people complain more about Trump because he's currently in control of the whole nation. He's in a position to do massive harm, so he needs to be kept under sharp watch. The same should go for any president.
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