The Wow I Can't Believe That News Story Thread

[Frownland]

Originally Posted by OccultHawk

John Paul Jones better bring his A game if he expects to keep up. Thurston too to be honest.

Agreed. Pick scrapes won't save you now bitch!

[OccultHawk]

Originally Posted by elphenor

Goo is a great album

ofc their debut is more my style

don't take this the wrong way because I luv SY but am I the only one that sees Moore as a superfan of alternative music rather than organically special

Lee surrendered too much power his way. Thurston was very charismatic but the better sounds came out of Lee’s guitar.

I know what you mean by the superfan thing but Thurston’s legacy goes way beyond that. Thurston and Lee jointly are the last two guitar legends.

[Exo]

Originally Posted by OccultHawk

Dirty and Goo could arguably be classified as crappy grunge.

Dude, Goo is fantastic.

[OccultHawk]

Originally Posted by Exo

Dude, Goo is fantastic.

Yeah. I mean I remember when it came out and my heart sank. Daydream Nation was already pointing in much safer direction then the next thing I knew people who had never heard Bad Moon Rising were walking in Goo t-shirts. It was like Sonic Youth had been gentrified. And Goo is painfully inferior to Confusion, BMR, EVOL, and Sister.

the idea of guitar legends seems contrary to the point of the music they play

They were indeed a guitar band and definitely guitar heroes. They were the final statement concerning rock’n’roll guitar that was born as Chuck Berry hit its stride with Hendrix and died in the atonal roar of early Sonic Youth.

[OccultHawk]

I think they had a better approach and a wider depth of influence like being Swell Maps fanatics and such than most popular 90's groups

Sonic Youth are an 80’s group. Along with Big Black and the Butthole Surfers and Dinosaur Jr they were what made the 80s the greatest decade rock’n’roll would ever know.

[Exo]

Originally Posted by OccultHawk

Yeah. I mean I remember when it came out and my heart sank. Daydream Nation was already pointing in much safer direction then the next thing I knew people who had never heard Bad Moon Rising were walking in Goo t-shirts. It was like Sonic Youth had been gentrified. And Goo is painfully inferior to Confusion, BMR, EVOL, and Sister.

I don't agree on a personal listening level but I respect the opinion. Goo and Daydream Nation were my first exposures to SY so the nostalgia levels beat down any taste changes that have occurred since. I've expanded my preferences for more experimental or "unsafe" sounds but I can still go back to easy peazy late 80's/early 90's staples any day of the week.

[OccultHawk]

Originally Posted by elphenor

I don't really get that because nothing they do hadn't already been done

they have their own unique sound like any good band, but I don't see them as much different from the general ZG of 90's guitar music blending punk/shoegaze with arena rock

I guess they're inherently better because less metal

Their crazy Branca tunings and screwdrivers and hammers bending the strings into howling madness in way that felt sacred. They were definitely pioneers. There’s no playing the who did what first game. They brought it on stage uncompromised and made it rock’n’roll. It didn’t matter that only 20 people showed up. Profound music history was made and they murdered rock’n’roll guitar. They took it to the conclusion and ripped it to shreds.

[OccultHawk]

Originally Posted by elphenor

I hardly like any of those bands re: OH

80's was great because punk set rock music free from the guitar god boring approach

the aftermath of punk was "anything goes" in popular music

This gets into things like you not liking The Beach Boys. You still don’t understand rock’n’roll.

[OccultHawk]

Originally Posted by elphenor

why isn't Branca the last word then?

or No Wave in general

that was the nail in the coffin imo

Because Branca wasn’t rock’n’roll. He was working in the framework of Varèse not Chuck Berry.

[OccultHawk]

Originally Posted by elphenor

it's that I don't really care about RocknRoll as it were

Then STFU about Goo