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OccultHawk 09-20-2019 09:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 2079263)
Those are what we refer to as uncle tom mother****ers.

Did Warren c unt out on her plan already?

Anteater 09-20-2019 09:39 PM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord (Post 2079260)
Ant, your stat specified only people making exactly at or below minimum wage. After I got my first raise at BK after six months and was making $7.35 an hour does that make me one of your success stories?

The guy with your job at Olive Garden or Chik-fil-A makes more (and gets benefits in a lot of cases), so I'd consider you a success story if you were using BK as a stepping stone to a better company, considering the demand for cooks and assistant managers is high across the whole industry due to constant turnover.

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Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 2079263)
Those are what we refer to as uncle tom mother****ers.

Lol whatever.

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Originally Posted by OccultHawk (Post 2079264)
Warren and Sanders are both saying scrap that bull****

And I don’t give a **** about your ignorant denialism

The truth is the ****ing truth

And the 2.3%? Dude seriously are you literate? Cause it seems like you can’t ****ing read.

I read it fine. Which side of this argument has a greater number of people? You can't sell me on the idea that the system is broken if the vast majority are doing okay versus not. This isn't an argument about the very top versus the very bottom. The middle class covers a huge spectrum of people even now. That's why I brought up the total U.S. population into this. You have to step back and look at it.

Frownland 09-20-2019 09:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Anteater (Post 2079266)
constant turnover

So close, but yet so far from getting it.

OccultHawk 09-20-2019 09:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Anteater (Post 2079266)
The guy with your job at Olive Garden or Chik-fil-A makes more (and gets benefits in a lot of cases), so I'd consider you a success story if you were using BK as a stepping stone to a better company, considering the demand for cooks and assistant managers is high across the whole industry due to constant turnover.



Lol whatever.

You’re lost

Bitch filet and Olive Garden are death sentence jobs

They SELL “benefits” at rip off rates and you still ain’t got the $whatever copay

Anteater 09-20-2019 09:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 2079268)
So close, but yet so far from getting it.

You have yet to refute a single one of my points.

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Originally Posted by OccultHawk (Post 2079269)
You’re lost

Bitch filet and Olive Garden are death sentence jobs

They SELL “benefits” at rip off rates and you still ain’t got the $whatever copay

They aren't death sentences if you want a career there. You going to tell me a bedtime story about how X friend was passed up for a Manager job at Olive Garden after busting his butt for 10 years or something because of kitchen politics? That's not an argument.

OccultHawk 09-20-2019 09:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Anteater (Post 2079266)
The guy with your job at Olive Garden or Chik-fil-A makes more (and gets benefits in a lot of cases), so I'd consider you a success story if you were using BK as a stepping stone to a better company, considering the demand for cooks and assistant managers is high across the whole industry due to constant turnover.



Lol whatever.



I read it fine. Which side of this argument has a greater number of people? You can't sell me on the idea that the system is broken if the vast majority are doing okay versus not. This isn't an argument about the very top versus the very bottom. The middle class covers a huge spectrum of people even now. That's why I brought up the total U.S. population into this. You have to step back and look at it.

42% are definitely ****ed

What more needs to be said? You’re lost

OccultHawk 09-20-2019 09:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Anteater (Post 2079270)
You have yet to refute a single one of my points.

This refutes ALL your points

42%

You’re lost

OccultHawk 09-20-2019 09:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Anteater (Post 2079270)
You have yet to refute a single one of my points.



They aren't death sentences if you want a career there. You going to tell me a bedtime story about how X friend was passed up for a Manager job at Olive Garden after busting his butt for 10 years or something because of kitchen politics? That's not an argument.

Go work at either one for a few years and get back to me. There’s no ****ing future at the goddamn Olive Garden. I’m done with this. You’re lost.

Frownland 09-20-2019 09:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Anteater (Post 2079270)
You have yet to refute a single one of my points.

Sorry, it's clearly not as self-evident for you as it is for me. The terrible working conditions inform the high turnover rates, which is the issue at hand. It's not like your responses have actually refuted the idea of terrible working conditions for low pay being far too common.

Anteater 09-20-2019 09:53 PM

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Originally Posted by OccultHawk (Post 2079272)
This refutes ALL your points

42%

You’re lost

42% of what...lol. Certainly not the working population of the United States. Average median income in late 2018 across all demographics and age groups was $55k a year. That's over hundreds of millions of people.

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Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 2079274)
Sorry, it's clearly not as self-evident for you as it is for me. The terrible working conditions inform the high turnover rates, which is the issue at hand. It's not like your responses have actually refuted the idea of terrible working conditions for low pay being far too common.

This whole discussion opened up when people started whining after I brought up how Denmark, a capitalistic country, has the highest standard of living in the world. It is a lot easier to fix the problems we have than to burn down everything in favor of any form of communism. Then OH and others started bringing up their own situations into this and I slapped them down because they're irrelevant to the broader point I was making about the viability of capitalism for the vast majority of people.

"terrible working conditions" for somewhere around 3% to 5% of the total working population of the United States is solvable through policy changes, not by setting fire to everything and everyone.


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