****ing exactly

Don’t back off that truth when you sober up if you’re drunk

Dafuq?

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Source: Fortune

This is from 2017, which is three years younger than what you are citing. Even if you fast forward to 2019, these numbers haven't changed much.

Ant's the kinda boss who makes up peppy nicknames for all his employees and thinks they all like him but secretly they want to throw their coffee in his face for not remembering their name.

"AT OR BELOW" i

See boys & girls, Carter here gets it.

How many people (in comparison) are working hourly jobs that pay well above that threshold? There's your actual millions.

Your BLS stats represent a Holocaust

it show tens of millions at starvation no doctor wages you goddamn fool

My chart shows $15 and under

Wtf more do you need

People in big cities making just over their goddamn rent

You’re ****ing lost

So people who are making $20 or more an hour are also uninsured?

The legal U.S. population is (roughly) 329,513,047 at the moment. Therefore, the vast majority of people are well above minimum wage, no? This is based on what your showing me AND what I've already shown you.

Your chart's data also has no actual reference points for how many millions any of those demographics represent. It doesn't gel with actual data out there.

About 90% of insurance still leaves you with thousands of dollars in medical debt when you need to cash in.

"Most Americans aren't even slaves! This slavery problem that you keep whining about is simply melodramatic."

The power of the internet in modern times:-

And thus it all comes back to my original comment that started this on Denmark. Why reinvent the wheel when the Nordic model makes everyone happy and still provides the benefits of a capitalistic society?

I've suggested solutions to these problems before. I'm just pointing out that the vast majority of Americans don't share this burn-down-everything mentality precisely because they've done okay for themselves. If you really want to get nihilistic about it, all living things are slaves whether they think they are happy or not.

Under $11 is dead broke all the time everywhere

Under $15 is dead broke anywhere worth living

One trip to the dentist, one ****ed up transmission, one broken bone away from below zero - that’s what it ****ing means and over time it catches everyone

You get sick you got no sick days you can’t afford the doctor you get sicker you have to work anyway so you get sicker still your car breaks down you get older you sprain your ankle start walking crooked hurt your back get strep throat

What the **** world are ****ing living in? You don’t know **** how it is

Idk, but trying to explain away issues by saying that it only affects a minority reeks of uninformed privilege.

We're well aware that Americans are selfish and short-sighted morons.

all workers 42%

That’s pretty goddamn clear to me

Extremely uninformed

Lol dude, I've been down there. I get it, but I just can't be nihilistic about it.

One of the big reasons there's been a pushback against Sanders in favor of Warren right now is because there are millions and millions of people who are happy with the insurance plans their workplaces provide or plans they negotiated on their own. They want the ACA to be "improved" rather than have something like Medicare For All. That's reality for the majority across all demographics above that 2.3%.

Ant, your stat specified only people making exactly at or below minimum wage. After I got my first raise at BK after six months and was making $7.35 an hour does that make me one of your success stories?

Those are what we refer to as uncle tom mother****ers.

Warren and Sanders are both saying scrap that bull****

And I don’t give a **** about your ignorant denialism

The truth is the ****ing truth

And the 2.3%? Dude seriously are you literate? Cause it seems like you can’t ****ing read.

Did Warren c unt out on her plan already?

The guy with your job at Olive Garden or Chik-fil-A makes more (and gets benefits in a lot of cases), so I'd consider you a success story if you were using BK as a stepping stone to a better company, considering the demand for cooks and assistant managers is high across the whole industry due to constant turnover.

Lol whatever.

I read it fine. Which side of this argument has a greater number of people? You can't sell me on the idea that the system is broken if the vast majority are doing okay versus not. This isn't an argument about the very top versus the very bottom. The middle class covers a huge spectrum of people even now. That's why I brought up the total U.S. population into this. You have to step back and look at it.

So close, but yet so far from getting it.

You’re lost

Bitch filet and Olive Garden are death sentence jobs

They SELL “benefits” at rip off rates and you still ain’t got the $whatever copay

You have yet to refute a single one of my points.

They aren't death sentences if you want a career there. You going to tell me a bedtime story about how X friend was passed up for a Manager job at Olive Garden after busting his butt for 10 years or something because of kitchen politics? That's not an argument.

42% are definitely ****ed

What more needs to be said? You’re lost

This refutes ALL your points

42%

You’re lost

Go work at either one for a few years and get back to me. There’s no ****ing future at the goddamn Olive Garden. I’m done with this. You’re lost.

Sorry, it's clearly not as self-evident for you as it is for me. The terrible working conditions inform the high turnover rates, which is the issue at hand. It's not like your responses have actually refuted the idea of terrible working conditions for low pay being far too common.

42% of what...lol. Certainly not the working population of the United States. Average median income in late 2018 across all demographics and age groups was $55k a year. That's over hundreds of millions of people.

This whole discussion opened up when people started whining after I brought up how Denmark, a capitalistic country, has the highest standard of living in the world. It is a lot easier to fix the problems we have than to burn down everything in favor of any form of communism. Then OH and others started bringing up their own situations into this and I slapped them down because they're irrelevant to the broader point I was making about the viability of capitalism for the vast majority of people.

"terrible working conditions" for somewhere around 3% to 5% of the total working population of the United States is solvable through policy changes, not by setting fire to everything and everyone.

All workers lol lol lulzzzz lol derp derp derp

I already pointed out why that chart doesn't mean anything. Go get some real stats from the BLS or something with data that isn't from the Obama admin years with NO references.

Neat! That still doesn't refute the prominence of poor working conditions in America.

I never said those conditions didn't exist. OH and I are debating to which degree of the working population it actually effects.

After you came in where did I mention my own working conditions?

That was supposed to quote ant

Also you didn’t slap down ****

You just dismissed them as irrelevant because they impact a minority of Americans. Much better.

All the more reason to look at improving policy instead of pulling the rug out from everyone, no?

A broken system doesn't have success stories of any kind. Hence the word "broken". America, both in the past and right now, has plenty. I'm all for policies and other ideas that improve the conditions that allow those success stories to happen even more frequently.

This is one of the stupidest things I’ve ever read.