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Trollheart 11-24-2021 10:10 AM

Somebody should let Bruce Willis know he better suit up.

jwb 11-24-2021 10:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Trollheart (Post 2192527)
OK I have to agree with the comments on that story. First, the guy is not a cannibal - that was just a reference to how he killed one of the inmates. Second, so far as the story says, the only people he killed were scumballs who probably deserved to die. No innocents, no kids, no women. So why is his sentence and imprisonment so unrealistically draconian? You'd think he had murdered a thousand people and was an actual cannibal! I agree it's cruel and unusual to have no company at all, not even a pet, and furniture made of cardboard? What are they afraid of: that he'll kill the rest of the prison's inmates? I'd let him do it. ****ing unbelievable. Not at all what I expected when I read the story. What makes him so "dangerous" that they can visit such unprecedented punishment on him?

why not just kill his ass?

Don't say it's cause you are against the death penalty after you just signed off on letting him murder other prisoners lol

Trollheart 11-25-2021 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by jwb (Post 2192692)
why not just kill his ass?

Don't say it's cause you are against the death penalty after you just signed off on letting him murder other prisoners lol

Not really a problem. If that was the state of play, he killed people so let him die. Not necessarily against the DP, just I don't see that it serves any real purpose other than revenge. Certainly doesn't dissuade people from murdering. Look at how it was back in only Victorian times, when almost everything from stealing bread to murder was a hanging offence; didn't stop anyone.

My point is, in the current climate with no DP, imprison him, fine. But why are such incredibly unique and draconian measures believed necessary for a guy who, when it comes down to it, surely is no worse than any other murderer they have there? What makes him worthy of this almost hysteric reaction by the authorities?

jwb 11-25-2021 06:35 PM

I assumed it was cause they couldn't prevent him from killing other inmates as you alluded to with your post... I dunno what the justice system is like there but in American prisons they have certain people on 23 hr lockdown with basically no direct interaction with other inmates....

Trollheart 11-25-2021 06:52 PM

Oh I think our system is a lot more "humane", god help us. But that's not the point. The article said "he will never be released". Why? How is he different to other killers, who will be allowed to seek parole? Why is he in this bloody plastic cage thing and without any company, not even a pet? Why are they making him out to be a Hannibal Lecter type who will kill indiscriminately if he gets out? He's a killer, sure, but no worse than any other. I don't understand the unbelievable lengths they're going to, as if they had the Devil himself incarcerated. It's not Texas and he's not black. I mean, come on! Why is he seen as so much more dangerous than other men in that prison who have surely committed worse, and more, murders?

jwb 11-25-2021 08:18 PM

Just skimming through this article I'm seeing plenty of reasons for him to be under maximum security and 23 hr lockdown... Namely the fact that he can't seem to stop murdering other inmates and not only that the murders are incredibly graphic and violent... So yeah i dunno about the glass cage but letting him into contact with other inmates would actually be pretty irresponsible and not at all "humane" imo...

Trollheart 11-25-2021 08:56 PM

Nah, the article is totally sensationalist and disingenuous (duh) calling him "The Cannibal of Toxteth", which immediately makes you think oh man this guy eats people! **** he does. Someone just gave him that name because of the similarity of the method of murder of one of the inmates to that of the SOTL. That's pure bollocks.

I'm not saying he shouldn't be in prison, but from what I read, the only person he killed "outside" was one guy who was bragging about assaulting a kid. I'm not going to defend what he did or why he did it, but it seems that affected him and once inside he probably heard stories of what the other inmates did and took what he saw as appropriate action.

Of course it wasn't. Murder is never - almost never - excusable. But the point I'm making - and again you appear to be ignoring it as you have yet to respond to it - is that there are murderers and rapists and god knows what-all in that prison, people far worse than him, and yet he's being singled out. I'm not saying there's not a reason for keeping him in the cage - if that's for the safety of other inmates, so be it. But why is he "never to be released"? Do they worry he'll go after inmates who have, on the outside? And given that he is totally alone why is he being refused the budgie? He has demonstrated no cruelty towards animals, so far as I can see, and surely, where other prisoners probably have TV and books and proper furniture, he should be made even the tiniest bit comfortable, considering the crime that landed him where he is was against someone who was a scumbag already?

And no, before you go off on one, I'm NOT excusing it, but I am pointing out that he didn't just start murdering people for no reason, as surely many of the others in there did.

Psy-Fi 11-26-2021 09:20 AM

Inside the twisted mind of Australia's worst female killer who skinned and decapitated her lover before cooking his head in a pot with veggies and trying to serve it to his children

The Batlord 11-26-2021 10:12 AM

So she's single.

Trollheart 11-26-2021 10:35 AM

Veggies, Batty. Veggies. Stay away, be warned. :yikes:

jwb 11-26-2021 11:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Trollheart (Post 2192739)
Nah, the article is totally sensationalist and disingenuous (duh) calling him "The Cannibal of Toxteth", which immediately makes you think oh man this guy eats people! **** he does. Someone just gave him that name because of the similarity of the method of murder of one of the inmates to that of the SOTL. That's pure bollocks.

I'm not saying he shouldn't be in prison, but from what I read, the only person he killed "outside" was one guy who was bragging about assaulting a kid. I'm not going to defend what he did or why he did it, but it seems that affected him and once inside he probably heard stories of what the other inmates did and took what he saw as appropriate action.

Of course it wasn't. Murder is never - almost never - excusable. But the point I'm making - and again you appear to be ignoring it as you have yet to respond to it - is that there are murderers and rapists and god knows what-all in that prison, people far worse than him, and yet he's being singled out. I'm not saying there's not a reason for keeping him in the cage - if that's for the safety of other inmates, so be it. But why is he "never to be released"? Do they worry he'll go after inmates who have, on the outside? And given that he is totally alone why is he being refused the budgie? He has demonstrated no cruelty towards animals, so far as I can see, and surely, where other prisoners probably have TV and books and proper furniture, he should be made even the tiniest bit comfortable, considering the crime that landed him where he is was against someone who was a scumbag already?

And no, before you go off on one, I'm NOT excusing it, but I am pointing out that he didn't just start murdering people for no reason, as surely many of the others in there did.

You don't seem to get its not about how bad of a guy he is opposed to other people in there, it's strictly a matter of safety. Anyone who keeps killing other inmates is gonna be on lockdown regardless of their reasons. And the fact that he only killed one person outside prison is also not a good defense for letting him out lol... Since he's been in prison he hasn't stopped killing people which is usually a sign that he's probably not going to be safe to let out..

The Batlord 11-26-2021 12:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Mindfulness (Post 2192761)

That thumbnail is anti-Semitic af.

Trollheart 11-27-2021 05:18 PM

They're sending a giant dildo into space? :yikes:

Psy-Fi 11-28-2021 08:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Trollheart (Post 2192842)
They're sending a giant dildo into space? :yikes:

It'll be probing Uranus...



:shycouch:

Trollheart 11-28-2021 09:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Psy-Fi (Post 2192875)
It'll be probing Uranus...



:shycouch:

:laughing:

Going beyond the final frontier, then.

The Batlord 11-30-2021 03:01 PM

**** Turkey.

Trollheart 11-30-2021 06:51 PM

I'd prefer to eat it actually.

DianneW 12-01-2021 10:03 AM

https://media3.giphy.com/media/GwVSk...rNfW/giphy.gif
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Originally Posted by Psy-Fi (Post 2192875)
It'll be probing Uranus...



:shycouch:


rostasi 12-02-2021 04:43 PM

A Merkel farewell included a 1974 song by future punk rocker Nina Hagen. Germans are asking why.

rostasi 12-03-2021 07:19 AM

Banksy’s ‘Love Is in the Air’ to Be Fractionalized into 10,000 NFTs.

Psy-Fi 12-03-2021 07:34 AM

The autopsy has been published of a Texas McDonald's worker who founded a New Age cult and was discovered mummified in April

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On Thursday The Guru magazine published her autopsy, revealing she died of natural causes - alcoholism, anorexia and long-term ingestion of silver.

Carson, 45, was 5-foot-4 and weighed 75lbs when her emaciated and mummified body was found.

Her followers had created a shrine in a house in Colorado, where Carlson was found lying beneath fairy lights, wrapped in a sleeping bag wearing a crown.
She had glittery makeup on her face, and her eyes were initially believed to have been removed, but are now known to have simply decomposed.

Her supporters - who think she was 19 billion years old and was the reincarnation of Jesus, Joan of Arc, Marilyn Monroe and Cleopatra - remain faithful.

DianneW 12-03-2021 08:20 AM

https://www.connexionfrance.com/Fren...c5d2-358289173


https://www.connexionfrance.com/Fren...er-in-Brittany

Trollheart 12-03-2021 12:14 PM

Parents of Michigan School Shooter to be Charged

About ****ing time parents started being held responsible for these things! A ****ing fifteen-year-old and they buy him a GUN for Christmas? What is this? American Dad?

Psy-Fi 12-03-2021 01:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Trollheart (Post 2193230)
Parents of Michigan School Shooter to be Charged

About ****ing time parents started being held responsible for these things! A ****ing fifteen-year-old and they buy him a GUN for Christmas? What is this? American Dad?

Looks like the cops will have to find them first.

Trollheart 12-04-2021 10:48 AM

Ah, I bet she doesn't even look four billion!

The Batlord 12-04-2021 11:07 AM

So even I can do it is what this article is saying.

Anteater 12-04-2021 08:49 PM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord (Post 2193339)
So even I can do it is what this article is saying.

Start a following around a Korean Jesus version of the Burger King king.

Psy-Fi 12-05-2021 04:32 AM


Psy-Fi 12-05-2021 06:34 AM

Pals yank dead friend out of his coffin to take him on one last macabre motorcycle ride

The Batlord 12-05-2021 08:48 AM

I've been waiting for a new Weekend at Bernie's for so long!

Trollheart 12-05-2021 12:28 PM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord (Post 2193339)
So even I can do it is what this article is saying.

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Originally Posted by Anteater (Post 2193378)
Start a following around a Korean Jesus version of the Burger King king.

Our Fatter, who art in Intensive Care having his stomach pumped, tasty be thy burgers.

The Batlord 12-05-2021 12:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Trollheart (Post 2193409)
Our Fatter, who art in Intensive Care having his stomach pumped, tasty be thy burgers.

Too big a lie even for a cult.

DianneW 12-06-2021 12:53 PM

QUOTE=Trollheart;2193409]Our Fatter, who art in Intensive Care having his stomach pumped, tasty be thy burgers.[/QUOTE]

:love:

Psy-Fi 12-06-2021 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Mindfulness (Post 2193477)
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Trollheart 12-06-2021 02:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Trollheart (Post 2193409)
Our Fatter, who art in Intensive Care having his stomach pumped, tasty be thy burgers.

Thy order come, tis overdone:
Should not have been taken by Kevin.
Give us this day our money back
And refer us not to law enforcement
As we refer those who trespass against us;
And lead us not into overtime
But deliver us from minimum wage.
For thine is the burger, the sauce and the ketchup
Forever and ever
Amen.

The Batlord 12-06-2021 02:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Mindfulness (Post 2193477)
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Omg shut up Biden no one gives a ****!

rostasi 12-07-2021 01:06 PM

Indian teen arrested for beheading pregnant sister.

rostasi 12-07-2021 01:16 PM

Electrician jailed after castrating men at their request in Germany.

jadis 12-13-2021 06:14 AM

‘Dystopian’ video shows teachers scrambling to snatch dollar bills to fund classrooms

Psy-Fi 12-13-2021 06:46 AM

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Originally Posted by rostasi (Post 2193557)

Shocking!..



:shycouch:


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