The Wow I Can't Believe That News Story Thread

[Oriphiel]

Originally Posted by djchameleon

The will of the people that care enough to show up and exercise their right to vote should be the only ones that matter. The rest of the lemmings that don't get how important it is can go ahead drifting through life letting others make important decisions but just don't want to hear a single gripe out of their mouth.

Uh, DJ, the whole point of elections in the U.S. is to pick someone to make important decisions for you while you "drift through life". And if the masses pick the 'wrong' candidate, the politicans just go ahead and use either electoral college bullshit, a loophole, or good old fashion tampering to null our decision. We live in a system where the rich and powerful use all of their resources to keep us polarized and neutered. No matter what we do, whether someone votes first or third party, or doesn't vote at all, we're all "lemmings". So yeah, it's not surprising that so many people don't feel the need to vote between one old rich guy and another.

And of course everyone has the right to an opinion and to complain, whether they vote or not. They're still apart of this country. For all you know, they may be affecting others and supporting their ideals in ways vastly more effective and far reaching than voting.

[OccultHawk]

I don't want to hear the gripes of people who do vote. It's your fault we're in this ****.

[Zhanteimi]

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[OccultHawk]

Who else is to blame besides the ****ing sheep that actively acquiesce to this ****?

[Zhanteimi]

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[Oriphiel]

We should just set up a Ninja Warrior style obstacle course, with a cage match against a bear at the end, and whoever wins gets to become President.

[Zhanteimi]

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[Psy-Fi]

Originally Posted by OccultHawk

I don't want to hear the gripes of people who do vote. It's your fault we're in this ****.

George Carlin. If you vote you have no right to complain.

[Lisnaholic]

I'm very disappointed by the number of you who consider voting to be a waste of time. Didn't you notice that some recent presidential elections went:-
Republican win - Bush
Democrat win - Obama
Democrat win - Obama
Republican win - Trump
Voting did that, and anyone who suggests that America under Trump is the same as America under Obama is disconnected from what is happening to the US.

Yesterday Frownland suggested that voting perpetrated evil, but thinking about it, I'd say that voting is more about blocking evil. The Brits did it in 1924 by denying power to Oswald Mosely, fascist sympathizer and leader of The Blackshirts :-

Mosley, whom Stanley Baldwin described as "a cad and a wrong 'un", contested the result. It took several recounts before Chamberlain was declared the winner by 77 votes and Mosley blamed poor weather for the result.

The vote number is small because it was a local election, but the principle is the same. By my reckoning, Trump is "a cad and a wrong 'un" and should have been blocked from power by more people turning out to vote against him.

Occult and Batlord are both reduced to writing oxymorons to champion not voting:-

Occult by saying that people who turn out and do something are more apathetic than people who stay at home.
Batlord by talking about a "sort of oligarchy" of people who show up to vote. Well, the people who show up to vote is a club open to every citizen, the exact opposite of an oligarchy.

(Apologies if this post seems a bit blunt, but I had to get it off my chest in 10 mins otherwise I'll be late for work.)

[Trollheart]

Originally Posted by elphenor

have you never shared anything?

Yeah. I'm a sharing, caring kind of guy. But that's my choice. Nobody forces me to, or doesn't. And I don't understand what that has to do with anything. If there are no laws, I go out to the shops (assuming such structures exist in your world and people don't just take what they want, and if this is the case, how does resupply work?) and I can get attacked, beaten up, killed even and nobody will step in, nobody will be tried or convicted or punished? I can see some **** mistreating a dog or horse and not be able to report him, as there's nobody to report to? Women can get raped and nobody will do anything about it? Yeah, sounds like a great world!

Originally Posted by Oriphiel

We should just set up a Ninja Warrior style obstacle course, with a cage match against a bear at the end, and whoever wins gets to become President.

I'd vote for the bear.

Seriously, if voting is such crap, what about the Arab Spring? What about Obama being voted into power by a population that were sick of Republican policies?

Surely the best comment on this is to remember "All that is necessary for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing". Huh? Huh?